From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 19 09:25:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D818A88485 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.xtaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C52A91641 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.xtaz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id r129so81646971wmr.0 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:25:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=wI77ZZL/X8DEefn27r7l9mESd/9K3EppoCXt2zciRAE=; b=DDN3VKKoiC6iMY2iMX8RvZiu3P7IFjCc4/hRZKcihKxyNi0JqkKUVRJ6Zy2JivdMAx EY+Yd0CDb0e2ha5IxryHgCY0rMGQaVako9Tsiuq3mkF6gm0Hr4iSaTQTVMGD8b7qGxIh vDrmFJXAUHmDKNEl8AFJ80Y9E55rpQmVss7K2z2INL8MDU5f+ZylGHIFHq4Y69PDs1Uh /RYhGsZHZAhracKVY49GtTsh/MiNXMtyBjHiAW4gCuB1gmNUhHtqrTrZbhadpAygjZa4 GzXHM69A1IrKCp2okyn53nIPQM88hgnw4/orha5Iy0ZbvXmgsjtOiJoaNfalTzm/mnB0 8pBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=wI77ZZL/X8DEefn27r7l9mESd/9K3EppoCXt2zciRAE=; b=cSFLQdxp1SABDMrCDzxNhareYAI61Yc4U0aOEFpOawantGkvBJ5GA08dIwEUDi0Mtw 6AEbwnOJutYkZyFk/nvFUsx+EgK49zjjofWanzxSbEvxLpTfP/GDxzRvmXOZ9mZITqhh b8pe8U7ctItFhtfsnRZwtL0f6sD/3cybpBN0Aj0UScxofEL/7UdZDxj5+hvq50sqa4C+ HVkc3+KjcGk+Oym+SVsegYzI2MJX/uxmgD5XvcrpZKZ4P9aPu6cfAGiCK3vo/h9HGsuU U04F265D9mz0EZ5jdiI7WybkA5Y526HMT0Xv9MKkEt3mRw25dp4ZryqtVjvQFSrvCh60 qqzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTzSIErqWYX7aJpEThIcEFZZVQciUiNxsFV6xkeB4UwP9rnPQ+PVEOr3w4IgLm/sQ== X-Received: by 10.28.55.209 with SMTP id e200mr18785477wma.2.1453195517267; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from xtaz.uk (tao.xtaz.uk. [2001:8b0:fe33::10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ql10sm27741028wjc.23.2016.01.19.01.25.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:25:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:25:14 +0000 From: Matt Smith To: Yuri Cc: Quartz , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: "fsck -y /" keeps saying "Disk is still dirty" no matter how many times I run it Message-ID: <20160119092514.GA58286@xtaz.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Smith , Yuri , Quartz , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions References: <569017FF.9060509@rawbw.com> <20160109012909.6e9b257e.freebsd@edvax.de> <569D6E74.2030606@sneakertech.com> <569DB264.6040007@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <569DB264.6040007@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:25:19 -0000 On Jan 18 19:49, Yuri wrote: >On 01/18/2016 15:00, Quartz wrote: >>Yuri- do you have soft updates AND journaling enabled? I seem to >>recall people repeatedly having problems with fsck stuff not working >>right on SU+J disks. > >Yes. > Yep. When I had SU+J enabled I could never get fsck to ever mark the disk as clean. It was permanently dirty with errors that it claimed it fixed but then you ran it again and the same errors came back. Only way to fix it was to switch off journalling and just leave softupdates only enabled. Then fsck marked the disk as clean as you would expect. I still to this day don't understand why SU+J is the default when it's clearly so broken. -- Matt