From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 24 02:48:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF5D6EF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm21-vm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm21-vm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A9BA29AF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.239] by nm21.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:47:51 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.105] by tm20.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:47:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:47:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1379990871; bh=2b292QtCE4HqtyNSGvWa/44VwXE2bOEPjlaUCbrE7zs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GCI19Xn7zegNOQQA40ekjIBm1KWoB7C0pEPzXFzZiYzMxGZO6r+LEEzZjWcZxMZDjpmvGL1VRp6bNUbZU6e13z9YR8g3S9WPKaUq5+5syF5pT2XyREMIsgBZrOe77H/RoPYUOTreaeYm1ODQId0mgJIiC8952E2Twaxj1v8pmJ0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 129578.20313.bm@smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: QyVuqq0VM1mh7DIv.dM.IZVKbwOxpa82CIDRCyVde8Eu3Ju rtlTsieR_cEXDsWkwsJ44NoFZ6ACgI7fW14M3Em6DnqktJEGntuN8vp4u6dm 2.dX3WGycyM10sGglmF02nb09uBDZandlmIaEM4TspiyqPwZXn6OUqRXwOAV tOvCr6mhYiPqW8pbxeiuBPbXDfu5Q2fNF_3F3Q6SfNmXMyO3nOtu.yyrt4nJ aS3c91qCmQ7a.tp9U0E8lQk59RL1oaCtKM2LRzVadWVnUJVgI3.lCLZj0pwE yyglxwFBHuZnh.OCRq_ZHtxC_UGgsBmaa_F13KSAn.6WTNGR41OaLKIVGPqE WxR51yLKW.lTH6YmgYLE_5VpP6Qetor61t51lBZhmbfRy50zMW_cuX9uIwLX vHDmDhxYN8YQX6uAZzgz7VYekLucTmmvwROIguB2azJ43RYXbHy4tZob.gR1 uzugFIzsmFZvQp0vf.U1y56P9ekMjJiRVBR96qVIFBvycflgqW9T7NVyqYZP zFlhqRZgSV5GpjBHzhWusBRWxLdm5n33UvOyhfoGqeRNRJ9OPgGdcJxVdV4h mlRZ0ZmWsN3W4elINxLY798SiCeuPVI5e3Lp6HMj88dlfumMt06XQzu8EHSJ L8suV7lay6UZyyAfGQwOGAjftBx42rQdy9fZs X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- X-Rocket-Received: from [92.224.209.235] (ralf.mardorf@92.224.209.235 with ) by smtp142.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2013 02:47:51 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1379990870.726.11.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days! From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 04:47:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <201309231851.MAA14047@mail.lariat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:48:02 -0000 On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 20:00 -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: > Any contribution from a company like Verisign needs to be carefully > scrutinized. No it has to be turned down flat. Huge companies from the USA at all events are untrustworthy. The only trustworthy companies are such companies: "I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit." - http://lavabit.com/ "Levison said that he could be arrested for closing the site instead of releasing the information, and it was reported that the federal prosecutor's office had sent Levinson's lawyer an e-mail to that effect." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit There can't be any doubts about it, Verisign will do what they can do to make FreeBSD insecure. Nothing good will contributed by them. Not a single big company from the USA does not cooperate with the NSA, they all cooperate with the NSA. Regards, Ralf