From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 24 13:45:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from penguin.ipunet.com (penguin.ipunet.com [206.191.39.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FFB154F8 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew@penguin.ipunet.com) Received: (from drew@localhost) by penguin.ipunet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21249; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:27:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from drew) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:27:53 -0500 From: "Andrew G. Luyt" To: Greg Lehey , brooks@one-eyed-alien.net, james.wilde@telia.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programmers' editor? Message-ID: <19991124162753.A21217@penguin.ipunet.com> Mail-Followup-To: Greg Lehey , brooks@one-eyed-alien.net, james.wilde@telia.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00e101bf3681$44cb04a0$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> <19991124103253.B2554@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <19991124135521.44585@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991124135521.44585@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Greg Lehey (grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com): > OK, I've said my piece here, and I disagree entirely. But it's not up > to me; I've been using Emacs and similar editors for 20 years. The > real question is: what do newbies think? Anybody want to comment? Well, speaking as a FreeBSD newbie, and partial Linux convert, I guess I can comment. Up until recently I have used vi (vim to be precise) for all my editing tasks. I started learning emacs a couple of weeks ago, and it has now become my main editor for coding purposes. The first thing I did however, was to remap my capslock key to act as ctrl. ;) I've found out that overall, my productivity has gone up with emacs, though there are special circumstances where I say to myself 'grrr, I wish I were using vi'. I have yet to figure out how to repeat my last command in emacs, a la '.' in vi, for instance. I still use vi for quickie jobs like editing config files, as I find it's more convenient to just type vi in the xterm I'm already in, as opposed to switching desktops to the copy of emacs I keep running at all times. As always, YMMV. > > Actually, if you're going to spend much time in UNIX, you should at > > least have basic proficiency with vi since it's always there and > > emacs may not be. > There I agree entirely. I do use vi for exactly this reason. I'll pipe in with a vigorous 'aye' here too. --agl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message