From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Apr 11 15:22:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20174 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com (mail.prairiecommunications.com [208.141.230.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20158 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: from 208.141.230.96 by prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 2P498SA1; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:17:46 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id RAA06587; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:22:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 17:22:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804112222.RAA06587@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is the FreeBSD Mozilla CVS server? References: <199804111653.LAA05849@pobox.com> <199804112029.OAA24098@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Nate Williams on Sat, 11 April: : Sure it does. Go read the license that you signed in order to get : access to the source code. If you want to do anything commercial (which : includes making a $$, even if you're not the one making a $$), then : you've gotta pay sun a pretty tidy sum of money. Last I heard it was : close to a million dollars. But that doesn't really bear upon the issue of licensees writing new code of their own. : Even if you don't use Sun code, you are 'tainted' from working on : writing a different VM. This is basic Reverse Engineering 101. The : folks who look at the code aren't allowed to write the code for the new : implementation. This is not a term of the Sun license, however. It is merely one way to preclude being effectively charged with "theft" of intellectual property. Another way to defend yourself against such a charge is simply not to "steal" any intellectual property. I can't speak for Sun, but I don't think it's realistic to believe that Sun has any reason to sue someone who does *not* use Sun's code, since they would be unlikely to win, for one thing, and since even if they were to win, they would be unlikely to gain financially as a result -- indeed, quite the opposite! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message