From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Aug 19 16:36:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1A1106F334 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E9BE7E8D1; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-lf1-f46.google.com (mail-lf1-f46.google.com [209.85.167.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFF4A1A44D; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:36:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-lf1-f46.google.com with SMTP id r4-v6so2127588lff.12; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 09:36:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHSHzwyaVm0VoX2pSmdZ+KBUoP0htSuxANydHU81xVlA4QrHgAx p6jd0JyMIQbOrNbg2slyjjoBM3xKIDl06YXiHt8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPzDOAnAQQzq3pMpFAoFZtEV9l7L4gqhzk9plFZn6+rPAtc2IRqGV0DW/fFlVF9vKy1kpzjwf/dqmp+zNSZnoLk= X-Received: by 2002:a19:26d2:: with SMTP id m201-v6mr26188603lfm.43.1534696617469; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 09:36:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:5742:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2018 09:36:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180819163519.ss2nyhpxl7abpzzn@ler-imac.local> References: <20180819152253.bbcrefdvynl7y5ka@ler-imac.local> <20180819153526.7ruovrpmdsimkmfj@ler-imac.local> <20180819163519.ss2nyhpxl7abpzzn@ler-imac.local> From: Kyle Evans Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:36:36 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: LUA loader: bhyve now doesn't? To: Kyle Evans , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:36:59 -0000 On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 11:28:10AM -0500, Kyle Evans wrote: >> > filesystem? >> > >> >> (CC'ing jhb@ and tychon@, who might have better insight) >> >> If we can swing it, I think the best model here should have always >> been that userboot uses the host's scripts but the guest's >> loader.conf. The current model doesn't tolerate any mismatch between >> host and guest and looks unsustainable. > > Yeah, I have a FreeBSD-10, and a HardendBSD-12 VM, and BOTH failed until > I loaded the old /boot/userboot.so to my host. > > We really need to tolerate this condition, and NOT surprise the user. Right. That's what we're trying to figure out here, the best route forward to make this stuff reliably work.