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Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD
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Ahem... so no Apache... but why games, X11, compiler?

After all, an OS isn't necessarily a development platform either.

Or a graphics workstation environment either.

Or a game platform either.

As time goes by, the definition of what is part of an OS and what is a 
separate application evolves. We aren't living in 1960 anymore. We are 
in 2006.

NetBSD definitely needs to stay up-to-date with what a fantastic 
operating system should be.

Gilles.


Andy Ruhl wrote:
> On 8/31/06, Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> wrote:
>> BSD is about an operating system, not about a kernel.
>
> Bingo. Good point. This point is lost sometimes.
>
> I believe NetBSD has the proper philosophy in regards to the entire OS
> as well. I don't want apache built in, for instance.
>
> Andy