From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 2 0:51:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78C237B41A for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 00:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0147.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.147] helo=mindspring.com) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16sK08-0001mZ-00; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:50:49 -0800 Message-ID: <3CA970CD.E76C6568@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 00:50:21 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: Brett Glass , Anthony Atkielski , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <1017714456.71119.20.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com> <1017724424.71119.79.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > You can download the source from > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6999 > > > > Doesn't work on AIX or Solaris. I haven't tried it on SCO, > > mostly because I believe it will be a waste of time to do so. > > You've tried it on AIX and Solaris? I've tried compiling it there. At the time I tried (last month), it did not compile successfully. > > > You can get Mozilla from http://www.mozilla.org/releases/ > > > > I already have Netscape. You guys were arguing about Netscape > > not working, and then you go and point me at Netscape... sheesh. > > Uhh Mozilla != Netscape 4.x Netscape 6.x. Without the Netscape connection, it fails to support Java. > > I'm pretty sure that Galeon a whole bunch of stuff, plus ^requires > > the Galeon stuff, to work. People were complaining about > > it on -hackers, just the other day, when it took them 8 > > hours to pull it down over their 28k modem. > > I can't parse the first part of that sentence. Sorry; I've inserted the missing token... 8-). > As for big downloads.. Netscape is not significantly smaller. Netscape > 4.79 for AIX is around 13 Mb vs 16.5 Mb for Mozilla. Personally I think > the 3.5Mb would be worth it for a browser that crashes way _way_ less > and has many more useful features. But it's binary. And it's supported. And it's not explicitly labelled as "for testing purposes only!" on the download lead-in page. > > Can you point us at *binary* releases for versious OSs? For > > 28k modem users, this puts them in the 1.5 hour range for a > > 14M download. > > Did you visit the mozilla.org URL I posted? > Here it is again http://www.mozilla.org/releases/ > All the operating systems I listed had binary releases. Yes. This is the page where it said the code is for testing purposes only, in a dark bold font. The size argument vs. the browser that comes with the OS is: Mozilla 17.9M gtk+ glib gettext > > PS: UNIX people tend to use UNIX for everything. This includes > > browsing. It doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to run some > > other OS, if your intent is to not run that OS on your servers, > > as well, so a UNIX ship will have UNIX desktops, and they will > > probably be the same flavor of UNIX as they have deployed for > > their hosting facilities, since it also makes little sense to > > have to keep people up to speed on several OSs, rather than, > > say, doing useful work. > > What an interesting, but highly irrelevant point. How long ago did you read the subject line? 8-) 8-). > Can't say I agree, but it's a different issue to what we're talking > about. > > I would consider my office a 'unix shop' but we do have Windows machines > here. Lack of a decent Office suite or PCB and schematic tools tend to > prevent me from installing FreeBSD on all of our machines (and believe > me I'd like to). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message