From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 10 20:25:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15E116A416 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FE343D66 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:25:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J5E00B848NC5L90@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J5E00IJM8NCNCB0@pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J5E00H8D8NBZOL0@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 15288 invoked from network); Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:23:27 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:23:27 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:23:27 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20060910200554.J22428@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> To: Michael Abbott Message-id: <4504743F.1050406@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <20060909182831.GA32004@FS.denninger.net> <200609100159.k8A1xAIn089481@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20060910150526.GA31323@FS.denninger.net> <20060910151817.H8856@psg.com> <20060910181331.GA35166@FS.denninger.net> <20060910200554.J22428@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:25:58 -0000 Michael Abbott wrote: > Damn, I'm confused now. Let me try and get this straight: > > CURRENT > This is, by definition, broken a good part of the time, and is what > it says, namely current, ie work in progress. Yes. > STABLE > This is broken some of the time and .. uh .. isn't really all that > stable, actually. "STABLE" means "you can update FreeBSD along this branch without needing to recompile applications or kernel modules". This means that companies can ship binary drivers for their hardware and say "this driver will work on FreeBSD 6.x" (which isn't possible on Linux). The fact that there are occasionally bugs introduced... well, that's an inevitable consequence of the stable branches being development branches. > RELENG_n_m > This is completely stable and only tracks security fixes. Security fixes and "critical errata". The requirements for something being committed to such a branch after the release are that: 1. It must be an important bugfix, and 2. I must be absolutely certain that nothing bad will ever happen as a result of someone updating a FreeBSD n.m system to the latest updates on RELENG_n_m. > RELENG_n (RELENG_6 at the moment) > Has somebody just said that RELENG_6 = STABLE? Yes. > I'm going to guess then that RELENG_7 is CURRENT. > No, this doesn't make sense to me at all. RELENG_7 doesn't exist yet. RELENG_7 will be 7-STABLE once it exists, some time in 2007. Colin Percival