From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 19 09:41:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FEC345A75 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from mail.steinkamm.com (mail.steinkamm.com [194.127.175.194]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "steinkamm.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49pDNJ6Jk5z3Z0n for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne@Steinkamm.COM) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (trajan.stk.cx [10.8.8.110]) by basis.steinkamm.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 05J9flKv003651 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:41:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@steinkamm.com) Received: from trajan.stk.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 05J9fliL000757 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:41:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne@trajan.stk.cx) Received: (from arne@localhost) by trajan.stk.cx (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 05J9fk22099614; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:41:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arne) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:41:46 +0200 From: Arne Steinkamm To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, arne@steinkamm.com Subject: Re: MUAs we use Message-ID: <20200619094146.GH89652@trajan.stk.cx> Reply-To: arne@Steinkamm.COM References: <20200611175122.0e09b89e@archlinux> <20200619051347.GG89652@trajan.stk.cx> <20200619085531.30489733@archlinux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200619085531.30489733@archlinux> User-Agent: Mutt@Trajan/1.12.1 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on basis.steinkamm.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49pDNJ6Jk5z3Z0n X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of arne@Steinkamm.COM has no SPF policy when checking 194.127.175.194) smtp.mailfrom=arne@Steinkamm.COM X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.35 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[arne@Steinkamm.COM]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[Steinkamm.COM]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.63)[0.629]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.34)[-0.335]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.86)[0.858]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34646, ipnet:194.127.175.0/24, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[freebsd-questions@Steinkamm.COM,arne@Steinkamm.COM]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:41:55 -0000 On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 08:55:31AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:13:47 +0200, Arne Steinkamm wrote: > >From the last 10828 Postings to this mailing list 4146 had an > >User-Agent line. > > > >I (grep, uniq, sort :-) ) counted them. Here is the result: > JFTR your list is missing at least Claws Mail, Sylpheed and Evolution > 3.36.3 ;). [...] > My grep, cut, sort scripts are inaccurate, but still accurate enough to > prove your statistic wrong, since after executing even an inaccurate > search, it's possible to verify the message headers by taking a look at > a few messages. Even if I would have written accurate scripts to check > what is on my machine, it might not provide all mails from the list. I never spoke about making a statistic. I said: "From the last 10828 Postings to this mailing list 4146 had an User-Agent line." There is no single line containing a regexp matching anything like ^User-Agent:.*Claws etc. I know that this is no suitable tool to make a real statistic. It was fun. Just delete my inital email and be happy. .//. Arne -- Arne Steinkamm | Home: Mail: arnesteinkammcom