From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 19:25:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D74016A41F for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:25:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com (wolf.pjkh.com [66.228.196.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136DA43D49 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:25:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F361726B; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.pjkh.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24388-07; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 766C517268; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC92170F4; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:25:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Jonathon McKitrick In-Reply-To: <20051005185728.GA37054@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <20051005122331.M24914@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <20051005184437.GA36369@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <43442196.3010208@gmail.com> <20051005185728.GA37054@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pjkh.com Cc: Joe S , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hidden spot on hard drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:25:13 -0000 > On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:55:18AM -0700, Joe S wrote: > : Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > : >the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection > : >product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot touch > : >it, > : >a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it. > : > > : >1. Any idea where this info could be stored? > : >2. Any way the same thing could be done under FreeBSD? > : > > : >Thanks, > : > > : >jm > : > : # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/zero > : > : Will overwrite the entire drive. > > Thanks. What I was wondering is if there is a way to do the same copy > protection in FreeBSD, where I could store the data in the same place on the > drive where the user cannot access it. Normal, average users yes. But as the above stated... dd will let me (as root) get to any part of the disk I want. If you're users don't have root access, then just make it a normal file owned by root, chmod 400. I seem to remember some software put it's license key in the boot sector (this was way back when and I might be not remembering correctly). But even that can be read using dd... not sure how I'd do it with windows, but I'm sure it's possible.