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Date:      Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:34:21 -0500 (EST)
From:      Mark Mayo <mark@quickweb.com>
To:        Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@americantv.com>
Cc:        jhk@freebsd.org, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Announce: Alternative Mail Archive
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.94.961118142443.10571D-100000@vinyl.quickweb.com>
In-Reply-To: <199611181759.RAA28132@right.PCS>

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On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Jonathan Lemon wrote:

> Mark Mayo writes:
> > Hi all, I've been playing with setting up my own mail archive of the
> > freebsd discussion lists! To start with, I've been archiving the
> > -questions list for several days, and i was wondering if someone would
> > take a look and tell me what you think?
> > 
> > Basically, it lets you "browse" the list, or search it. I'm still working
> > on the searching part a little, trying to get it to produce slightly
> > better output.
> 
> If possible, an option to limit the search string to only the title/header
> of the message might be useful.  Also, I couldn't figure out how to search
> by numbers - eg "2.1.6".
> 

Good idea, I'll look into it. I'm also refining the search so the "index"
page that contains all the subjects laid out in threads isn't indexed by
the search engine -- it should produce better results that are easier to
understand.

> 
> > My thoughts so far:
> > 1) The main browse list will have to be broken up into one,or two week
> > sections. If not, after a few months the file will become redicuously
> > large.
> 
> Yes - BUGTRAQ's hypermail archive has this problem - it puts the entire
> year's discussion on one page.  Takes so long to load, I don't even visit
> the page any more.
> 

I'm planning on breaking the list into 1 month chunks, as Joe Greco
suggested. Maybe two. At the "entry" point to the archive, you'll be able
to pick which month you wish to browse. I'll probably enable searching of
a particular month as well.

> 
> > 2) I like how I can search for something, go to the result, and be able do
> > navigate up and down in the "thread". This was something I found to be a
> > pain in the ass on freebsd.org archive..
> 
> I absolutely hate the freebsd mailing list archive.  I aside from the fact
> that you can't browse it directly, it doesn't even sort the results by date
> or thread, nor does it allow you to "get the next X hits".
> 
This is the main reason I was motivated to create this archive - I just
found the results from the freebsd mailing list arhive too difficult to
process in my head...

> 
> > 3) I'm using hypermail to archive, and ht://Dig to search. They seem quite
> > good, but maybe there are better solutions? Feedback would be appreciated.
> 
> It looks good.  Have you given any thought to archiving -hackers as well?

Definately. Right now (for the next few days) I'll just be doing
-questions. Mostly as a test. If everything works okay, I'll fire up
-hackers, and all the other lists as well. I should have some spare
time next weekend, so maybe I'll add the other lists then.

Thanks for the feedback,
-Mark

> --
> Jonathan
> 

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