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To: "Gerald T. Freymann" <freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu>
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Subject: Re: Best X Windows Manager for Newbies
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From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen)
Date: 18 Sep 2001 09:42:07 -0700
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"Gerald T. Freymann" <freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu> writes:

>  Ok, here's a dumb question. How do you run the windows manager without
> Gnome or KDE?

Well, to avoid using a lot of messy NIH scripts, I start X with a custom
"xinit" which mostly consist of:

/usr/X11R6/bin/xinit ~/.Xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper -nolisten $@
    ## I've omitted some code that prevents accidental use by root.

File ~/.Xinit contains (somewhat edited):

    xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources   ## AKA .Xdefaults
    unclutter -idle 1&   ## Great program that hides stationary pointer.
    exec fvwm2           ## ~/.fvwm2rc  starts other applications.

I've been using fvwm2 for years starting on a 16 MB 486/66.  Tried
Gnome, KDE (for several months), several WMs, and returned to fvwm2.

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