From owner-freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 15:38:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FA84C7A for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 15:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 269DA26BB for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 15:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s4RFcLKH093531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2014 09:38:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s4RFcL70093528; Tue, 27 May 2014 09:38:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:38:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: Do _any_ USB 3.0 cards actually work? In-Reply-To: <201405271340.s4RDdheR023651@fire.js.berklix.net> Message-ID: References: <201405271340.s4RDdheR023651@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 May 2014 09:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD support for USB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:38:30 -0000 On Tue, 27 May 2014, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 26 May 2014, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> >>>> Does FreeBSD *ever* work with *any* USB 3.0 equipment? Or is this >>> >>> Yes it works. Tue, 12 Jun 2012 I filed a success report: >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-usb/2012-June/011283.html > >> I remember looking it up at the time, and this >> appears to be the same card from Newegg: >> >> www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158297 > > Newegg looks similar to Conrad > > http://conrad.de/ce/de/product/973583/2-PORT-USB-30-PCI-EXPRESS-CONTROLLER ... > It's not identical. > The white paint of the silk screen on PCB ends with: > Conrad.de : 8-00B MADE IN TAIWAN (no preceeding 1122 ) > Newegg.com : 08-00D MADE IN TAIWAN (+ preceeding 1122 ) > Electricaly I don't know. Those are likely date codes: 2011, week 22. And possibly 8-00B or -00D are board revisions. They may not be identical, but all the components are in the same place and I'd bet software will consider them the same thing. > My posting > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-usb/2012-June/011283.html > Lists all numbers off top of chips, (it was very hard to read one > chip, even with magnifying glass & good light, I wouldnt want to > try to read pcture on newegg web page, but people have my IC numbers > for Conrad). The Startech USB chip is the same, a D720200F1. A much better picture of the Vantec version: http://www.expreview.com/9741-7.html Newegg does not have the Vantec any more, but they did: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815287007&cm_re=ugt-pc302-_-15-287-007-_-Product Anyway, the eight-pin IC is an Atmel 25F512B, a 512K-bit flash ROM for firmware. It's possible there are firmware updates for these cards, but unlikely the vendors have them for end users. > Newegg.com page has: > "With a built-in SATA power connector, each USB port can deliver > up to 900mA of power" > That's too low, should be 1.0 Amp I believe for USB3 spec. > http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/973583/ (english page BTW) clicks to > http://www.produktinfo.conrad.com/datenblaetter/950000-974999/973583-an-01-ml-2_PORT_USB_3_0_PCI_EXPRESS_C_de_en_fr_nl.pdf > Page 2 says: > "each USB port of the plug-in card can deliver a current of up to > 1.5A (SATA power unit must be connected to the plug-in card!)," One engineer is honest, the other is optimistic. :)