From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 06:37:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF616A422; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jrhett@mail.meer.net) Received: from outbound0.sv.meer.net (outbound0.sv.meer.net [205.217.152.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FC343D46; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jrhett@mail.meer.net) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outbound0.sv.meer.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jBG6bJQT039403; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:37:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhett@mail.meer.net) Received: from mail.meer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.meer.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/meer) with ESMTP id jBG6atDb052466; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhett@mail.meer.net) Received: (from jrhett@localhost) by mail.meer.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) id jBG6asct052465; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhett) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:36:54 -0800 From: Joe Rhett To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20051216063654.GA49191@svcolo.com> References: <20051117050336.GB67653@svcolo.com> <20051201204625.W41849@delplex.bde.org> <20051205200546.GB13194@svcolo.com> <200512051522.41965.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512051522.41965.jhb@freebsd.org> Organization: svcolo.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: com1 incorrectly associated with ttyd1, com2 with ttyd0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:37:25 -0000 > > On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 08:58:04PM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: > > > It's not clear that disabling in the BIOS should disable for all OSes. > On Monday 05 December 2005 03:05 pm, Joe Rhett wrote: > > What? That's a fairly weird interpretation. If I want to disable inside a > > given OS, I do that inside the OS. If I want to disable for _ALL_ OSes, > > then I disable in the BIOS. What reasonable logic can argue otherwise? On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 03:22:40PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > The BIOS doesn't say "X is disabled", it just doesn't have any resources setup > for X. Well, this is where what the BIOS "says" and what the user is led to expect, are different that what you are arguing for. And on top of that, every major OS except for FreeBSD does the right thing (acts like it isn't there) Isn't it fairly obvious that no resources setup for a peripheral means "disabled in BIOS" and it would be best to ignore that resource? -- Jo Rhett senior geek SVcolo : Silicon Valley Colocation