From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 17 13:28:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3284537B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:28:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ranssi.paivola.net (ranssi.paivola.net [194.197.235.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0B043E75 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:28:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hessu@paivola.net) Received: by ranssi.paivola.net (Postfix, from userid 1007) id A42872C902; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:28:01 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:28:01 +0200 From: Heikki Paatela To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -STABLE was stable for long time (Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS?) Message-ID: <20021117212801.GA20741@ranssi.paivola.net> References: <3DD7E2EC.5050805@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20021117224945.A806@grosbein.pp.ru> <20021117182801.GB1131@tiiu.internal> <3DD7E2EC.5050805@vortex.wa4phy.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20021117142506.00e60dc0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20021117142506.00e60dc0@207.227.119.2> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 03:05:13PM -0600, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 09:21 PM 11/17/02 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Also don't recall the handbook ever saying -stable for production > environments and think Eugene is spewing FUD or whoever put that in the > handbook was smoking crack. Besides, the security branches came about for > those with production systems or those less willing to gamble on new > features. Couldn't find where it originated, but atleast since Sun Feb 11 00:16:17 1996 UTC when stable.sgml was introduced to the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/handbook/Attic/stable.sgml) until Fri Jun 8 01:15:08 2001 UTC (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml?rev=1.70&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup) the stable-chapter said: "If you are a commercial user or someone who puts maximum stability of their &os; system before all other concerns, you should consider tracking &os.stable;. This is especially true if you have installed the most recent release at the time of this writing) since the &os.stable; branch is effectively a bug-fix stream relative to the previous release." And yes, I suppose it was about the time when the security branches came about that the handbook text was also changed to reflect the "new" role of -stable. -- Heikki Paatela To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message