From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jan 31 16:39:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24770 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24762 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA09632; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:37:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:37:31 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Mayo To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Chris Coleman , Julian Elischer , Terry Lambert , mcgovern@spoon.beta.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Constructive criticism (was: bashing everyone for fun and profit) In-Reply-To: <19062.854750336@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Perhaps you should contact Greg Lehey, he wrote a book called: > > "Installing and Running FreeBSD", published by Walnut Creek. The book is 3 > > hundered pages long, and came with my 2.1R CD-ROM. If you check out > > http://www.cdrom.com/os/bsdbook.htm you'll notice that it's now called: > > "The Complete FreeBSD". I'm assuming this is an updated version of the > > book I have. > > Well, don't forget several things here. > > First off, while Greg'd work relies heavily on the Handbook and FAQ > documents, it's still (C) Greg Lehey. You can't just take sections of > his stuff and put it into a free, online version of the book unless > you're sure it came from some other (C) FreeBSD, Inc. source or you > have Greg's explicit permission. The Handbook and FAQ documents are > copyrighted by FreeBSD, Inc. and freely redistributable on the same > terms as the source code - you can use it for free or commercial > purposes. Also, "The Complete FreeBSD" == "Installing and Running FreeBSD" > with printed man pages, that's all. :-) > That's sort of what I meant - sorry if it sounded like I was suggesting to just take Greg's work. I just thought that it wouldn't be too productive to produce "another" version of Greg's book - which is excellent, BTW - but to create a book on something else! Essentially, focus more on what you can do with FreeBSD after the installation. Check out http://www.bb.cc.wa.us/~chris/book.html for the preliminary Table of Contents > Would this book be written in SGML and back-portable to the FreeBSD > web page distribution, or what exactly? If the author finds SGML too > constraining and retreats to HTML or some other format then I > certainly understand and won't gritch about it, I'm just wondering. > I guess it's undecided so far - Chris is putting it together, and it's his idea. It's an open effort, with a consideration of possibly publishing a book -- we both noticed that the Sams.Net "How to make a Linux Internet Server" books are insanely popular.. We're planning on describing our own trials and tribulations of starting from scratch with FreeBSD and ending up with the amazing things you can accomplish with the OS. All ideas are welcome of course - take a look at the TOC and give Chris (or me) feedback! -mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com RingZero Comp. http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I prefer tongue-tied knowledge to ignorant loquacity." Cicero (106-43 B.C.) > Jordan >