From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Jun 19 13: 8: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (static224.conference.usenix.org [209.179.127.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F3137BD6B for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:07:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA66003; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:07:21 -0700 From: Greg Lehey To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Jason Evans , Chia-liang Kao , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Explaining intentions (was: kernel thread support) Message-ID: <20000619130721.A65971@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20000616144259.Q47268@blitz.canonware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 16 June 2000 at 16:41:34 -0700, Matt Jacob wrote: > > > On 16 Jun 2000, Jason Evans wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 03:19:56AM +0800, Chia-liang Kao wrote: >>> o Is the model for the scenario described in >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/threads/ >>> >>> the final design decision? (then I think it shall be well documented.) >> >> We have made some refinements to the model, but in general, it is the same >> idea. Daniel Eischen and I are working on a paper that gives a reasonable >> overview of the current design. Hopefully we can get it to a postable form >> in the near future. However, we're probably going to concern ourselves >> primarily with actually doing the work, rather than telling everybody >> beforehand exactly how we're doing it. > > Can please spend some effort into saying what the intents and architecture is > in the paper? > > The current newbus stuff and CAM stuff horribly suffer from the fact that > there aren't such documents. I'm currently tearing my hair out trying to > intuit what should have been written down. Agreed entirely. We're now frequently seeing patches and even design documents, but we seldom hear about *why* people want to make specific changes or design decisions. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message