From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 6 18:29:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA16687 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 18:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16658; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 18:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16156; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 02:29:03 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199709070129.CAA16156@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: brian@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don Croyle: make world failing at ppp install (again) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Sep 1997 16:32:47 PDT." <21962.873588767@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 02:29:03 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry about this. This was discussed quite a bit on the cvs-committers list - a closed list for FreeBSD developers. It was agreed fairly early that we wouldn't cc any of the other lists as there is no point in shouting about something that's essentially a security hole. The ultimate decision (after the ``ppp'' group was committed) was that we'd include ``sliplogin'', making the original group name a bit inappropriate. I'm also guilty of not subscribing to freebsd-stable (I'm now rectifying this), so I'm afraid I didn't see the message below 'till Jordan pointed it out. If it's any consolation, it's not (to my knowledge) going to change again. Sorry for the inconvenience people. > He has a valid point. More notification of changes which raise > bootstrapping issues would be appreciated by all, I'm sure. :) > > Jordan [.....] > On 01 Sep, my make world (2.2-stable) failed installing /usr/sbin/ppp > because the program was supposed to belong to an until then > nonexistant ppp group. So I found out what needed to be added to my > /etc/group, fixed it and did a make installworld. I also posted a > note to this list mentioning the issue and suggesting that some notice > of this sort of change would be nice, in an obvious place (like > /usr/src/README or this list). > > Today, 06 Sep, make world failed again. It appears that ppp now wants > to be owned by the network group, which seems to be the ppp group with > a new name (same group ID). Same solution, just edit /etc/group > again. > > I subscribed to this list under the impression that this was where > information about this sort of change was going to appear. I suppose > that it is, but it would be nice if the 'brian' who is working on ppp > would post it instead of me. > - -- > I've always wanted to be a dilettante, but I've never quite been ready > to make the commitment. -- Brian , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....