From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 30 7:32: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115F237B407 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 33073 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 15:31:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Oct 2001 15:31:50 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:31:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Poul-Henning Kamp , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Nate Williams Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30-Oct-01 Terry Lambert wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: >> My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at >> this point it's larger than C..) I prefer the way Java lays out code >> (functions defined within the class, etc.). Unfortunately, the >> implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are >> running !FreeBSD. :-/ Granted, speed isn't needed for all things. > > Java has several problems: I still prefer it to C++'s problems. :) > 1) It can't do multiple inheritance Interfaces are like multiple inheritance of pure abstract classes and are simpler to get right. > 2) You can instance classes without constructing them (the > JavaMail API has a number of examples of this) So? > 3) Strong typing is for weak minds Or lazy ones. :) I wouldn't use Java for OS hacking, but for applications, strong typing is more useful. > -- Terry -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message