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Date:      Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:32:03 -0500
From:      Jung-uk Kim <jkim@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Garrett Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r278249 - head/etc/rc.d
Message-ID:  <54D3EF63.4030300@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <54D3EA24.9070501@selasky.org>
References:  <201502051138.t15BcUlj070663@svn.freebsd.org> <22331387.X8ihv2sqVO@ralph.baldwin.cx> <54D3E4C7.5070803@selasky.org> <2710446.umAevmagdU@ralph.baldwin.cx> <54D3EA24.9070501@selasky.org>

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On 02/05/2015 17:09, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> On 02/05/15 22:59, John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:46:47 PM Hans Petter Selasky 
>> wrote:
>>> On 02/05/15 22:39, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:51:41 PM Garrett Cooper 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 5:04, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:38:30 AM Garrett
>>>>>> Cooper wrote:
>>>>>>> Author: ngie Date: Thu Feb  5 11:38:29 2015 New 
>>>>>>> Revision: 278249 URL: 
>>>>>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/278249
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Log: Honor the following flags with the following rc.d 
>>>>>>> scripts for services
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that can be easily decoupled from the boot process 
>>>>>>> without disrupting other services
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - MK_APM && MK_ACPI: powerd - MK_BOOTPARAMD: bootparams
>>>>>>> - MK_FTP: ftpd - MK_INETD: inetd - MK_LEGACY_CONSOLE:
>>>>>>> moused, syscons
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm using moused with vt(4).  It is not 
>>>>>> syscons-specific.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately it is LEGACY_CONSOLE specific right now:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 183242        sam # XXX MK_SYSCONS 183242        sam .if 
>>>>> ${MK_LEGACY_CONSOLE} != "no" 212525        imp SUBDIR+= 
>>>>> kbdcontrol 212525        imp SUBDIR+=      kbdmap 212525 
>>>>> imp SUBDIR+=      moused 212525        imp SUBDIR+= 
>>>>> vidcontrol 183242        sam .endif
>>>>> 
>>>>> This will probably need to change to be inclusive of
>>>>> MK_VT, but I need to doublecheck the sources to make sure
>>>>> there aren’t any assumptions lurking in moused that
>>>>> explicitly require syscons in order to function...
>>>> 
>>>> Eh, which part of "I'm running moused for a trackpad on my 
>>>> Thinkpad that I use with vt(4) both in and out of X" doesn't 
>>>> == "it works with vt(4), not just sc(4)"?  :)
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here is patch to make X work without moused among other stuff:
>>>  https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196678
>> 
>> I _like_ moused.  I can hotplug USB mice while in X and it works 
>> just fine (works fine on the console as well).  Has worked for 
>> over a decade (whereas hal can't seem to tie its own shoes much 
>> less properly deal with hotplug).
>> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> We are trying to move away from HAL and to devd :-)
> 
> And I'm not trying to get rid of moused. Actually there is a race 
> currently if moused or Xorg grabs the /dev/umsX first .... Is
> there a simple way to detect moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf .
> Then Xorg should not try to grab /dev/umsX . Only if 
> moused_enable!="YES".

I think what you're looking for is moused_nondefault_enable="NO".

Jung-uk Kim
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