From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 18 14: 3:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCB037B401; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.firepipe.net (procyon.firepipe.net [198.78.66.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EAC43E6A; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:03:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by procyon.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7547923FD2; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:02:01 -0700 From: Will Andrews To: Scott Long Cc: current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, dirk@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrtools doesn't build on -current Message-ID: <20021018210201.GJ19874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Long , current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, dirk@freebsd.org References: <20021018073701.GA71980@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021018073701.GA71980@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:37:02AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > The ports collection is one of the crown jewels of FreeBSD. > Unfortunately, even as more ports committers are added, more and > more ports break or become harder to build. On top of that, > pkg_add has become close to worthless now that the -r feature > is so fragile. If 5.0 goes out and popular ports don't build, > it will hurt the image of FreeBSD. Please, take a break from > adding new ports and/or maintaining your pet ports and fix some > of the broken-ness. So, just to make sure I get this straight: 1) Somebody commits a patch to -CURRENT without doing the slightest bit of analysis of its damage to ports, discussing it with the ports list, or even a HEADS UP or patch suggestions. 2) Tons of ports break. 3) Therefore, ports people should fix the breakage. Yah, right. Exactly why I don't use -CURRENT for much of anything nowadays. Too many people breaking stuff without bothering to fix it themselves in any way. So, why don't you encourage -CURRENT developers to treat ports like the crown jewel it is instead of pestering ports developers to fix their breakage? Regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message