From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 20 9:57:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E817537B404 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([65.5.120.39]) by femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010120175700.VWTQ11834.femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:57:00 -0800 Message-ID: <3A6A7A68.ADB51D19@home.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:58:00 -0800 From: hawk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au Cc: Doug Young , Mike , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.2 and X References: <001801c0827a$60a63460$020aa8c0@sixpak.net> <008201c0827c$e1ba1c40$847e03cb@apana.org.au> <01012016444104.02698@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oddly Enough it shouldnt do that ;) I have Several Linux/BSD installations on my Test cpu (debian, Mandrake, RH, Slackware, BEos, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD, hey its my test cpu ;) and in general, the only change you need to do to get the sever running is Play with the monitor type. I know strange, i think, the problem is that each distro detects monitors a different way? Possibly, oh well =) Brian Astill wrote: > Strange.... > I tried to install RH6.2 on free space on my second HD. It balked (permanently) > when it came to installing X. > Then I obtained FreeBSD 4.2. Installed X with no trouble at all. > The monitor is a cheap generic SVGA, the card Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro (4MB). > > Does this mean that certain combinations of HW & SW simply won't work together? > I still don't understand why RH would not install, where FreeBSD went "like a > charm" when SFAIK the versions of Xfree86 are the same. > > Brian. > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Doug Young wrote: > > > > I've had exactly the same problems several times when I tried to install X, haven't been too concerned because my main use for FreeBSD has been gateway boxes that are probably better off wihout X anyway (seems most experts believe so for security reasons). > > > > Occasionally I get a 3.x "X" setup to work fine (never once a 4.x) although its not consistent enough to use regularly. I still have nightmares from my linux (gasp, cough, splutter) days thinking about KDE lockups / crashes etc and haven't yet used XFCE sufficiently to feel at homewith it .......If I really want a Unix GUI then I install Solaris 8 which works properly EVERY time & has reliable support for applications I use (particularly StarOffice / Oracle that as far as I'm aware are still quite experimental in FreeBSD). For what its worth, X is probably fairly straightforward but like most things its just the inadequate explanation about configuring it that causes lots of people so much aggro. > > > > If I did have a pressing need for FreeBSD 4.x / XFree something / StarOffice I'd be browsing sites like freebsddiary.org, bsdvault.net, mostgraveconcern (links from previous sites) which generally have docomentation better suited to us non-experts than official stuff like the Handbook etc. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Mike > > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:46 AM > > Subject: FreeBSD 4.2 and X > > > > > > I've tried installing from CD (4.0) > > I've tried installing from ftp (4.2) > > I've tried installing the 5.0 current > > ... > > and in each case somehow the installation goes wacked when it comes to X. > > > > Everytime I try to run XF86Setup it pauses for 30 seconds and tells me it can't initialize the (X) server. > > > > What I WANT to do is install minimally, adding things as I learn and grow, not have everything but the kitchen sink installed and then try to make sense of it. But whenever it comes to X, I'm cursed. > > > > One time I got it running correctly, but somehow I ended up with parts of XFree 3.3.3 and XFree4.0 mixed up. It was a confusing mess. So I'm starting over for the 20th+ time. > > > > Is anyone else having install problems with X? What kind of install are you doing (I'm doing X-User, maybe I should go with developer to get source files?) and what version of FreeBSD are you using? (I'm TRYING to get 4.2 to work) > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > Mike > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Description: > ---------------------------------------- > > -- > Regards, > Brian > > ******************************************************** > Dr Brian Astill Visiting Research Fellow > Flinders University Institute of International Education > Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199 > bastill@sa.apana.org.au > ******************************************************** > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message