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Date:      Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:45:35 +0300
From:      Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
To:        Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org>
Cc:        tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net>, FreeBSD Ports <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg
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On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 12:32 PM Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 5:30 AM tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 03:25:19PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > >Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >We plan to remove the support for fetching packages over ftp for the
> next
> > >releases of pkg (probably 1.18) if you have a strong reason to use ftp
> which
> > >cannot be fixed by switching to any other supported protocols like ssh
> or http,
> > >please do share.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some places (jurastictions or companies) might not allow ssh.
> > Others might not allow https.
> >
> > With variety there is choice. Is ftp a great overhead?
>
> If this is due to security considerations, I don't think a place
> disallowing ssh and https would allow plain ftp.
>
> If it is because they don't like encrypted connections, I suggest
> using plain http in this case.
>
> Best,
> Li-Wen
>
>

At present , there are many ftp sites in service .
I do not know ssh ( because I never used it ) .

Now Firefox is not LIKING to connect to ftp sites . I am using Qupzilla (
in Linux )
when I click an ftp site in Firefox , i.e.  Firefox is forking Qupzilla for
that ftp site .

Also there is  Filezilla for ftp sites , among other possible alternatives .


My question ( which it may be wrong due to my lack of knowledge ) :


Can we use   ssh  like  Qupzilla or Filezilla on existing ftp sites or
can   ssh   be a sufficiently powerful  alternative  to Qupzilla or
Filezilla  ?


With my best wishes ,


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 23, 2022=
 at 12:32 PM Li-Wen Hsu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lwhsu@freebsd.org">lwhsu@free=
bsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 5:30 AM tech-lists &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tec=
h-lists@zyxst.net" target=3D"_blank">tech-lists@zyxst.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 03:25:19PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:<br=
>
&gt; &gt;Hello everyone,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;We plan to remove the support for fetching packages over ftp for t=
he next<br>
&gt; &gt;releases of pkg (probably 1.18) if you have a strong reason to use=
 ftp which<br>
&gt; &gt;cannot be fixed by switching to any other supported protocols like=
 ssh or http,<br>
&gt; &gt;please do share.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Some places (jurastictions or companies) might not allow ssh.<br>
&gt; Others might not allow https.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; With variety there is choice. Is ftp a great overhead?<br>
<br>
If this is due to security considerations, I don&#39;t think a place<br>
disallowing ssh and https would allow plain ftp.<br>
<br>
If it is because they don&#39;t like encrypted connections, I suggest<br>
using plain http in this case.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Li-Wen<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">At present , =
there are many ftp sites in service .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma=
,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I do not know ssh ( be=
cause I never used it ) .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;=
font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-famil=
y:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Now Firefox is=
 not LIKING to connect to ftp sites . I am using Qupzilla ( in Linux )</div=
><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmai=
l_default">when I click an ftp site in Firefox , i.e.=C2=A0 Firefox is fork=
ing Qupzilla for that ftp site .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans=
-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Also th=
ere is=C2=A0 Filezilla for ftp sites , among other possible alternatives .<=
/div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"=
gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:taho=
ma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">My question ( which =
it may be wrong due to my lack of knowledge ) :</div><div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_d=
efault"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge" class=3D"gmail_default">Can we use=C2=A0=C2=A0 ssh=C2=A0 like=C2=A0 Qup=
zilla or Filezilla on existing ftp sites or</div><div style=3D"font-family:=
tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">can=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
ssh=C2=A0=C2=A0 be a sufficiently powerful=C2=A0 alternative=C2=A0 to Qupzi=
lla or Filezilla=C2=A0 ?<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><=
div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_=
default">With my best wishes ,</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-=
family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div=
><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmai=
l_default">Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma=
,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" clas=
s=3D"gmail_default"></div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div></div><=
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