Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:38:31 +1000 From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> To: gek <gekk0@usa.net> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How would it work? Message-ID: <19980827153830.00276@welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980826221156.00799aa0@pop.netaddress.com>; from gek on Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 10:11:56PM -0700 References: <3.0.5.32.19980826211949.00797b60@pop.netaddress.com> <3.0.5.32.19980826190359.0079d730@pop.netaddress.com> <3.0.5.32.19980826190359.0079d730@pop.netaddress.com> <19980827135247.43750@welearn.com.au> <3.0.5.32.19980826211949.00797b60@pop.netaddress.com> <19980827145246.26504@welearn.com.au> <3.0.5.32.19980826221156.00799aa0@pop.netaddress.com>
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On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 10:11:56PM -0700, gek wrote:
> At 02:52 PM 8/27/98 +1000, you wrote:
> >Ah, good, you're beginning to look at it :-)
> >
> >On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 09:19:49PM -0700, gek wrote:
> >> How will this happen? hrm..
> >>
> >> 1) People subscribe
> >
> >Is it open to all?
>
> Yeppa, and it is unmoderated...I can always moderate it later if need be,
> but I would only do that if the list became a big spam target.
Right, so you say apart from spam anything goes?
> >> 2) People ask questions, chat, discuss FreeBSD, etc
> >
> >What types of questions would it cover?
> >What types of questions would it not cover?
> >How would someone asking a question decide if it is appropriate?
> >
> People can ask anything...as long as they know the members of the list may
> not know the answer.
How will you ensure they know that?
> As long as it is related to FreeBSD in general...or I don't even care if
> peopl just discuss computers...as long as there are not any "holy wars"
Oh, so if it's not related to computers or FreeBSD it's not allowed?
Which way is it?
> >> 3) People either respond or delete the message
> >
> >What sort of people would be responding?
> >
> Anyone who thought they might be able to help...
>
> >> As long as people understand that this new list is targeted towards people
> >> new to FreeBSD, and that some of the questions they ask may not get
> >> answered on the list.
> >> Someone may of gone through the same pain someone else is asking about, and
> >> may feel like helping
> >
> >
> >OK. What is going to happen when someone gives some advice that is
> >incorrect? Who will know that it's incorrect? How will it be dealt
> >with?
> >
> Well...to live and learn i guess. This isn't a perfect world.
> The best way to learn, is to try...
> Remember this is a "newbie" list...not a kernel hacker list.
Is it specifically for newbies who are running it on their own
experimental machines at home, or for newbies who are running their
business (or someone else's) on FreeBSD, or both?
> >> Who would run it? run what? I don't run a dictatorship
> >>
> >> The 2 rules:
> >> 1) No excessive flaming
> >> 2) no spam
> >
> >So you're not going to have any requirement about keeping to the topic
> >of the list. That'll give it a nice sense of freedom. I might even find
> >someone there to discuss crochet with :-) But what about when the
> >volume of mail gets larger and people start complaining that they have
> >to wade through too much irrelevant crap? How are you going to deal
> >with that? (Not saying you can't, just looking for a plan)
> >
> Sure you can as if others are into crochet on the list, and if
> someone replies, you can take the discussion off the list...
Oh, so now you're saying I can't discuss crochet on the list, only
computers and FreeBSD? So you do have a topic restriction?
Which way is it?
> it is rather easy to add a group of people to a group in your
> addressbook, like get a list of people who like FreeBSD and crochet,
> and put those people in your addressbook uner a group called crochet.
Yes, you're telling me how to get my damn crochet off your list :-)
Not that I would argue, just trying establish your true range of restrictions.
> If the volume of mail gets too large, and the members don't like it,
> UNSUBSCRIBE or set up a "junk" account like on one of the free email
> services, in case you might want to monitor the list, and keep it out of
> your more important mail.
... or is that what you're saying? If crochet chat swells out the list,
just learn to live with it? Or crochet goes, but if FreeBSD chat swells
out the list, live with it?
> >Also, it sounds like you're still focussed on housing the list as the
> >major hurdle and planning to do it yourself (but maybe I'm wrong here).
> >Just about any newbie has the skills to set up a mailing list. The
> >planning and people skills to make it work is another matter.
> >
> The list is already set up.
What I said.
> >There could be problems with presenting it as a FreeBSD list if it is
> >believed to have the potential to cause problems for FreeBSD. For
> >example, if someone believed that it would encourage misinformation that
> >put an added burden on the regular FreeBSD support system, or that it
> >would make FreeBSD look bad in some way, you could have problems.
> >Be careful what you call it and how you promote it. Do you hope to
> >get any support from the existing FreeBSD structures? Will you be
> >asking those who volunteer on the freebsd-questions list to help out on
> >your list instead? Will they feel they have a duty to monitor both
> >lists? Something to consider your position on.
> >
> Anyone is welcome to subscribe to the list...if it all newbies, so be it.
> People can learn on their own and share with the list.
> I made a note that this list is no way connected to FreeBSD Inc., but
> no one can control thought or what we of this list say.
> They may disagree with it and find it "harmful", well, I guess those people
> should worry about something else :)
>
> >
> >> Being ex-military, I have no problem sending in a SEAL team to silence
> >> someone, or if I'm lazy....just launch a little cruise missle :) , or
> >> removing them from the list, but it would take a lot for me to do
> >> that....I'm just a laid back type of guy.
> >> Gotta be laid back to sit in traffic here in Silicon Valley, hehe.
> >
> >You were probably only joking, but if you attract other people with
> >that attitude you might find it a little... distracting :-)
> >
> Yes I was joking....
> I live the exciting life in Technical Support, I'm used to responding to
> large volumes of email, and like I said...I'm still searching for a life on
> sale at one of the local retailers, but until then....i have plenty of free
> time.
So, what happens if you suddenly find you don't have so much free time?
> Once I find the money for my DSL line...i'll just run the list on my own
> fbsd box at home. no biggie.
Oh, so you're not running it yourself then?
--
Regards,
-*Sue*-
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