From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Apr 15 19:46:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lcremeans.erols.com (lcremeans.erols.com [216.164.87.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F423B14DE9 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:45:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lee@lcremeans.erols.com) Received: (from lee@localhost) by lcremeans.erols.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA99894; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:43:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990415224308.A99868@erols.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:43:08 -0400 From: Lee Cremeans To: dg@root.com Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jordan the Confused (Was: Jordan The Evil!) References: <199904160212.TAA20973@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199904160212.TAA20973@implode.root.com>; from David Greenman on Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 07:12:14PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: My room? Are you crazy? :) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 07:12:14PM -0700, David Greenman wrote: > Jordan (via WC CDROM) has given thousands of FreeBSD CDROMs to academia, > and many of us have worked hard to get FreeBSD into the coursework at > various universities. It's really offensive to read accusations of complacency > (or worse) about what we've done in this area. > I can't help but wonder if Brett (and others) have any idea what goes > on behind the scenes, especially when it comes to Jordan's FreeBSD promotion > efforts. Based on what I've been reading the last couple of days, it's clear > that there is a tremendous under-appreciation or total ignorance about it. All Brett sees is "Linux is beating us. I FSCKING HATE LINUX. Somethign Needs To Be Done." He's doing the whole "beatings will continue until morale improves" negative-reinforcement thing, and by this, he's spreading FUD and apathy _himself_. Not everyone wants to see a raving zealot screaming "The GPL sucks! Linux is lame! The End Is Near!"; the public, in general, tend to write such people off as insane. As for FreeBSD in academia, well, my using FreeBSD for almost 4 years, and reading and posting to the lists, is a direct result of that. I first found out about FreeBSD in mid-1995, when I was preparing to enter the Computer Science curriculum at Virginia Tech. That was back in the 2.0.5 days; FreeBSD was good enough even then to get VT to switch from DECstations running Digital OSF/1 and Ultrix as personal workstations. For that, at least, I figure some thanks are due; FreeBSD saved me from having to use Windows 95 on this machine, and taught me a lot that even my classes didn't do. -lee -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message