From eugen@grosbein.net Thu Sep 22 01:36:06 2022 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MXyYL2skTz4cvHG; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 01:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MXyYL1V7Jz49Th; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 01:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 28M1a9E0066939 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 01:36:10 GMT (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Received: from [10.58.0.11] (dadvw [10.58.0.11] (may be forged)) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 28M1a72R041096 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:36:07 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: git: 24e1824e4646 - main - Deprecate telnet daemon To: Shawn Webb , Gleb Smirnoff References: <202209211517.28LFHkoJ089471@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20220921163951.17C77AC@slippy.cwsent.com> <8EC34FC3-F299-4B03-AD4E-83D062D0E9F6@karels.net> <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd> Cc: Mike Karels , Cy Schubert , Brooks Davis , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <23508ccf-d6c4-4915-98e9-326cd2fc7157@grosbein.net> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:36:06 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT autolearn=disabled version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT No description available. * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on hz.grosbein.net X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MXyYL1V7Jz49Th X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 22.09.2022 4:45, Shawn Webb wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote: >> M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base. I >> M> think the client should remain, though. I use it frequently, although >> M> not on the telnet port. ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a >> M> perfectly reasonable usage. I use it to download FreeBSD images often. >> >> Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over nc(1)? > > I wonder if it would be worthwhile to hardlink telnet(1) to nc(1). Telnet is much more feature-rich. For example, I use telnet to connect to IP-based remote console server that uses bunch of RS-232 async ports to setup and/or OOB-control Cisco routers and telnet has "send break" command to send BREAK signal to enter ROMMON for boot-looping device.