From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 6 23:28:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8204937B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org [64.239.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F001543FB1 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:28:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h177SR188905; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:28:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org) Message-Id: <200302070728.h177SR188905@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The lack of common sense wrt recent issues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 23:28:22 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeroen Ruigrok writes: > So nice to see all the slamming and slandering, but what I really don't > get is how people are losing every little bit of common sense at this > point. Well, common sense is not common. Speaking of commonality, I detect a common theme in all the flaming of late. It seems that if someone becomes unreasonable and angry, this makes anything that happened before irrelevant and unassailable. Never mind what actually happened, apparently if someone starts posting scathing flames, they are automatically wrong and previous events are discarded. Real truth is not measured by the level of anger. It's measured by what actually happened, which might be independent of the anger. The only one I've seen posting in this regard is Greg Lehey. Kudos to you, sir, for recognizing that: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: > This has no relationship with whether your complaints are justified. > That's an issue which will take longer to research. I've no clue into the politics of these situations. If this man and this topic is on -core, there is hope yet. ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< A monk said to Nasrudin, "I am so detached that I never think of myself, only of others." Nasrudin replied, "I am so objective that I can look at myself as if I _were_ another person; so I can afford to think of myself." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message