From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 22 17:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDAB16A4B3 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (user-0cdfeuq.cable.mindspring.com [24.215.187.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5D2944008 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@online.fr) Received: (qmail 1575 invoked by uid 1002); 23 Sep 2003 00:20:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:20:57 -0400 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Mark Valentine Message-ID: <20030923002057.GA1491@online.fr> References: <20030922194907.GA11177@online.fr> <200309230007.h8N07Z9d026445@dotar.thuvia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309230007.h8N07Z9d026445@dotar.thuvia.org> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.20 i686 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDCon photos X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:21:04 -0000 Mark Valentine wrote: > I once had Mozilla running but it was just too darned sluggish to be useful > (this computer may be a few years old, but I still think that any software > which doesn't run well on a well-spec'd 600MHz Pentium III system is just > not worth my time!). I used Mozilla (the full blown version) on a 400 MHz Pentium II, as well as an 800 MHz Celeron, for a long time. I found it quite acceptable in performance and excellent in stability and page-rendering quality. I've now switched to Mozilla Firebird, which I'm totally happy with. > I recently managed to build Mozilla Firebird (which appears my best > hope at the moment, though I don't hold out too much hope for > interactive performance), but it just bombed out with a run-time link > error which I haven't yet resolved (I clearly don't have the > dependencies built quite right - these things shouldn't be so _hard_ > and _time consuming_ for someone who's been building and using free > software heavily for two decades!). Unfortunately I don't have a FreeBSD system right now to experiment with, but 4 months ago I have used mozilla-firebird on 5-CURRENT and earlier on 4-STABLE, with absolutely no problems, via the ports... Definitely building it on a slow machine is a pain though. One option is the linux binary (which also gives you access to more plugins) but some libraries in the linux-base port may need to be upgraded, I seemed to remember it didn't like the default version of glibc or something. > I dunno, maybe I'm just getting old, but I still rely heavily on the > lightning fast virtual desktop switching of olvwm, the familiar > Mail-meets-vi feel of mush for mail and the incomparable efficiency of > trn. All of these are missing modern features, but I'll live without > these features if having them means foregoing the excellent > implementations of core functionality I'm used to depending on minute > by minute, day by day. If you like all that, you may like links (in the ports) -- it has graphical as well as text-only modes, and even does some javascript I think Rahul