From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 22 07:34:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35A116A41C; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8785243D55; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5M7Zqb24472; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erich Dollansky" , "Vulpes Velox" Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:34:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B8EAE0.6050809@pacific.net.sg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:57 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:oceanare@pacific.net.sg] >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:37 PM >To: Vulpes Velox >Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > > >Hi, > >Vulpes Velox wrote: > >> Ignorant useless users should be supported by commercial ventures, >> not community ones. They will just drag the community down with their >> weight if they don't help out. >> >This would be the real tough one. > >There should also be a way to write some kind of descripton for the >people between. > >> I found the handbook to be useful in this area. > >Yes, if you understand it. It is written be serious IT >professionals for >serious IT professionals. Even a serious none IT professional has >problems understanding it. > Then read one of the many FreeBSD books. The one by Annelise Anderson is most certainly not written for serious IT professionals. I know because I have read it. >Our problem is that we all do not know the people who would speak the >language none IT professionals understand. > No, your problem is that you are confusing TRAINING with INSTRUCTION. The FreeBSD project has an obligation to provide instructions with the system. That, they do. But they do not have an obligation to provide training, nor does any company for their product. Even Microsoft charges extra for that. Ted