Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:27:50 -0400 From: Mitch Collinsworth <mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU> To: Kevin Bogac <k_bogac@yahoo.com> Cc: Don Read <dread@calcasieu.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question about the mascot Message-ID: <199908111527.AA291705270@broccoli.graphics.cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:35:31 PDT." <19990811143531.3896.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com>
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It is really amazing all the misrepresentations being tossed around on this thread. To date, NO ONE has even suggested the mascot be changed, let alone tried to gather support to attempt to force a change, blah, blah, blah. As to your charge of intolerance and inflexibility, it would appear your finger is pointing in the wrong direction. So far the ONLY THING that has been suggested by those of us on the "anti-devil" side is that in addition to the current promotional materials which all prominently feature the "cute little devil", we would like to also have some available without his image. I.e. an increase in flexibility and tolerance for all. But judging solely from the (sometimes vitriolic) responses to date, there is not enough flexibility and tolerance here to allow for this. Further, there have been NO posts to this thread saying that anyone has found the mascot so disturbing they have decided against FreeBSD, though I can imagine that it has happened somewhere. Probably those people never got far enough to even discover the existence of this list. What has been said, once again, is that a few of us who really believe in BSD have chosen not to display the promotional materials due to the unfortunate choice of mascot and the misunderstandings it can cause in the BSD-challenged, though we would really love to do our part to promote the OS. Oh, and also that someone who is new on the block wants to know why the devil is our mascot. Yes, there are footnotes to obscure history to explain this to the offended, but how many of the offended do you suppose actually get that far? How about we stop putting words in other people's mouths and stick to the question of how best to promote FreeBSD to the world at large, a world with a variety of cultures? -Mitch >If you cannot see past the mascot to amazing OS it >represents then you have dearly missed the goal of the >project. I was not aware of an attempt to put FreeBSD >on every desktop or even undo the strangle hold MS has >on the industry. If it is that disturbing you can >always migrate to another OS. There are numerous >commercial and free versions available including more >LINUX distributions that I can count. I do not support >the current trend in society that requires everything >to please everyone. I think I gave up when my son's >school changed the Easter, Halloween and Christmas >parties to the spring, fall and winter parties to >prevent any religious confrontations. When did the >world become so intolerant and inflexible? If I don't >like the mascot for Frosted Flakes I do not gather >support and attempt to force them to change it I just >don't buy them. If I do not support a co-workers >religious practices it do try to convert them I >respectfully decline to participate. I for one don't >want everyone to be like me. It would be pretty boring >from where I'm sitting. LIGHTEN UP! > >.....Sorry, I was on a roll. > >Kevin > >--- Don Read <dread@calcasieu.com> wrote: >> >> On 10-Aug-99 Mitch Collinsworth wrote: >> > >> > Traditional as it may be, I feel the "cute little >> devil" was an >> > unfortunate mascot choice and I support the idea >> of producing some >> > promotional materials without his image on them. >> Meanwhile, like Doug >> > I am not displaying the current ones. >> >> "Hyper-sensitive Xtian folk are refusing to buy Dirt >> Devil(tm) vacuums and >> have turned in their Duke Blue Devils season >> tickets. Film at eleven." >> >> Try 'dust-puppy inside' or that penguin thingy if >> you need 'cute'. >> >> Regards, >> --- >> Don Read >> dread@calcasieu.com >> EDP Manager >> dread@texas.net >> Calcasieu Lumber Co. >> Austin TX >> -- But I'm in good company, sendmail has kicked a >> great many >> butts in the past >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of >> the message >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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