From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 11:34:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A561065678 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE408FC34 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.198] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m3HBW2vs002814 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:32:04 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200804170015.55565.danny@ricin.com> References: <448212670.20080414110259@masm.elcom.ru> <200804150131.00194.danny@ricin.com> <1208226986.16346.269.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <200804170015.55565.danny@ricin.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:31:50 +1000 Message-Id: <1208431910.16346.388.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-3.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.393, required 4, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.41, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: Avermedia 507 TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:34:18 -0000 On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 00:15 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2008 04:36:26 Da Rock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > > > On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote: > > > > On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: > > > > >> Hi, All. > > > > >> > > > > >> Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use > > > > >> saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv > > > > >> runs, but freeze on begin chanel tunin... > > > > >> > > > > >> How to test tuner and drivers works or not. > > > > > > > > > > I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get > > > > > the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself. > > > > > > > > saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver > > > > homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary > > > > bsd-patche within distrib tarball > > > > > > I suspect your tuner (terratec?) is not amongst the supported ones. > > > > Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally > > supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly). > > Avermedia is not a type or brand of tuner. They're a HW company that assemble > certain cards/sticks from parts such as tuners, decoders etc. > > > > > That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had > > Saa driver is still available from purpe.com, but only from a direct download > link (there's no page anymore): > > http://download.purpe.com/files/saa-REL_14.tgz > > > no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled > > with support for the driver, not the driver itself. > > kbtv1 includes it also, for convenience, and because its needed for the saa > backend anyway (well, some header). > > The saa driver only covers video and audio (I only use "shunted" audio with > kbtv, not real audio capture). Tuner support is all userspace (directly via > iic device). The generic tuner support that comes with the driver (as example > sort of) seems to indicate that this is for a class of tuners that has three > fixed bands and must be set to switch between it (as in Philips reference > design). TDA and MKn init require some extra iic babble. > > Modern silicon tuners work differently and have quite different registers that > need to be set for tuning. You'll have to excuse me presumption here (I'll normally read all messages before adding to a thread), but you sound like a very good source of info here. May I ask you if you can supply some references to what you're posting here? I'd like to investigate this much further... Also, I thought I read somewhere that firmware is used in most tuners. Plus I found the linux drivers use firmware to make this work. Just a thought.