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Date:      Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:57:46 -0400
From:      Carl Schmidt <cschmidt@slackerbsd.org>
To:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/bin Makefile src/share/examples/etc make.conf src/usr.bin Makefile
Message-ID:  <20020410095746.GA11336@carbon.slackerbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020410023316.A58709@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:33:17AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:13:59AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > What about the next patch for make.conf(5):
> ...
> > Yes please.
> 
> Seriously, I would like to see more discussion on this.  I was serious
> aboiut where do we stop?  NO_LS?

You stop when you get to the point of NO_LS.  One could say that this spawns
from the lack of fine-grained "automated" control over what gets installed.
However something such as this is useful for at least this one reason: schg.
Some, if not all (I don't recall), of the 'r' commands are installed with
chflags schg and this causes a problem for people running in securelevel > 0
because you can't chflags noschg a file with schg once securelevel is so high.
You might argue the need to remove binaries at all from the base system and I
would argue that userland pollution is annoying and if there is a binary
installed which I don't need, it will be removed.  The inability of rm'ing a
schg'ed binary is annoying and having to go to single user mode just to do it
is even more annoying.

So when you have a group of commands, such as NO_UUCP, I would say it is okay.
If you get down to disabling one command with NO_WHATEVER, I would say it is
probably, though not definitely, something to really care about.

I agree with the change.
-- 
Carl Schmidt

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