From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 9 11:15:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454651065670; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0078FC12; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110909111510.EBPE32466.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:15:10 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.87.41]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id WbF91h00F0tX9KW02bFAw7; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 07:15:10 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4E69F53E.00B3,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=VcnKvEc+JFuYEbbjzZ0v7SijtKSuAbyuQmdPXwRCrh8= c=1 sm=1 a=15uyCebVCcIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HSeXd6ud8jGmpzpM0y1GZQ==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ZWWcSF-lar4Sb7vpUcoA:9 a=Rbr2T_qzsRh-NuXBI40A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=HSeXd6ud8jGmpzpM0y1GZQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p89BF9SU043331; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 06:15:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 06:15:04 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: portmgr-feedback@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110909061504.647df52e@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <201109070633.p876X8uc083295@koala.droso.net> References: <201109070633.p876X8uc083295@koala.droso.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, linimon@freebsd.org Subject: deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete* X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:15:12 -0000 On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:33:08 +0200 (CEST) linimon@freebsd.org wrote: > portname: german/ksteak > description: KDE frontend for steak, an english - german dictionary > maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org > deprecated because: Development has ceased. > expiration date: 2011-09-01 > build errors: none. > overview: > http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=german&portname=ksteak > > > portname: german/steak > description: An english <-> german dictionary under the GPL > maintainer: ports@FreeBSD.org > deprecated because: Development has ceased. > expiration date: 2011-09-01 > build errors: none. > overview: > http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=german&portname=steak Pardon my objection (I know you guys are getting slammed with a lot of complaints lately), but... "Development has ceased": Is that really the only reason for removing these two ports? There's really nothing wrong with either of them, to the best of my knowledge, and both are very useful to me in my correspondence with native German speakers. "Development has ceased" just seems to be insufficient as an *automatic* cause (excuse?) for removing a port, IMHO. Are we saying that once a program has reached a finished, final, stable working state, the developer(s) should be required to continue coming up with ways of modifying it for no good reason other than to avoid being dropped from our ports collection? Viewed from this perspective, doesn't that seem just a tad unreasonable? I mean, it's more like: deprecated because: development is *complete* and needs no further refinement (which is, of course, patently absurd) This really does lead one to wonder just what exactly is motivating the individuals leading the charge in this latest rash of ports removals. I realize many of the people involved in handling the ports collection are seasoned, experienced FreeBSD veterans, but this almost feels as if some new, overly eager intern has just recently been turned loose on the ports collection and, drunk on their newly acquired power, is just madly and capriciously "slashing-and-burning" with wild abandon. If having a maintainer for these two ports might spare them from the executioner's ax, I'll be happy to add them to my existing list of responsibilities. Thank you. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net