From nobody Fri May 29 13:58:32 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gRlM04nWFz6f596 for ; Fri, 29 May 2026 13:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from md-koch@t-online.de) Received: from mailout05.t-online.de (mailout05.t-online.de [194.25.134.82]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gRlM01CPDz3pxj for ; Fri, 29 May 2026 13:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from md-koch@t-online.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fwd83.aul.t-online.de (fwd83.aul.t-online.de [10.223.144.109]) by mailout05.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 16205882; Fri, 29 May 2026 15:58:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([88.152.192.139]) by fwd83.t-online.de with (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1wSxjM-20o0Fk0; Fri, 29 May 2026 15:58:32 +0200 Message-ID: <571b67f5-4867-4f74-955e-c38ea42a3c5f@t-online.de> Date: Fri, 29 May 2026 15:58:32 +0200 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: different outcome freebsd-version -kru To: Mark Millard , freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org References: <07c33cf7-8a08-4f09-9084-419eaa29e1ec@t-online.de> <0018e700-40f3-4e60-9b14-bf649f3102b1@t-online.de> <8ABC7D71-7FFA-4B50-9868-78436322B503@yahoo.com> <83237af5-f8db-479f-992a-1fa9f1b5878e@t-online.de> Content-Language: en-US From: Manfred Koch In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TOI-EXPURGATEID: 150726::1780063112-D57F9ABF-17873BDA/0/0 CLEAN NORMAL X-TOI-MSGID: 6a17bd92-e6a6-4ca9-ae3e-6215377e3314 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=t-online.de; s=20260216; t=1780063113; i=md-koch@t-online.de; bh=Y/3zYlsOEQ3Vz+HECuumSaGjzitrTIrN0rRiX22ZJ+A=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=poYf8dWG63goRJELUKvSS3mTGgoam2THPYT5Gb99fFzccmEuje2d18OEAaeTRxHav zO/m4Hzs09SpLmN76k4lHqdsnNPWNVaqx7FcAkep/LhwVXaGFPpTsDiVH0CAcql6Qi JZRQI/5rE6H+HzzHC1qOU6i/Dm2qWAvPea/UlpwavU+fb4X1tf/1BHX25JFgbnDexA V0LKA/fhTsKeVBVeVvVwV0o9WvfwTW3KO5L7UJjtaueX/LRe8f6qQT9pD+/JpNNckv d+92V470aV/pOP/6w2LmeK+cnpcp1zKmKBET8pLn2tomUtkz092I7yy/NU02++4QNX +xN2/ZF/L/htg== X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:194.25.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gRlM01CPDz3pxj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated Hi, There are the following outcomes in numbers # ls -C1 /boot/kernel*/ 1717 # find -s /boot/ -name \*.pkgsave -print 860 # find -s / -name \*.pkgsave -print 2434 # find -s / -name .pkgtemp.\* -print show nothing Should I dare to delete the *.pkgsave files? Manfred On 5/28/26 19:45, Mark Millard wrote: > On 5/28/26 08:50, Manfred Koch wrote: >> Hi Mark, >> >> I installed the >> >> FreeBSD-set-kernels-15.0 and rebooted. >> freebsd-version -kru shows: >> 15.0-RELEASE-p9 >> 15.0-RELEASE-p9 >> 15.0-RELEASE-p9 > Cool. > > There may be old files/directories to clean up. What does: > > # ls -C1 /boot/kernel*/ > > show: more than 1? > > What does: > > # find -s /boot/ -name \*.pkgsave -print > > show: any? > > Given the odd history/prior results, you might want to check each of: > > # find -s / -name \*.pkgsave -print > > # find -s / -name \*.pkgnew -print > > # find -s / -name .pkgtemp.\* -print > > (I'd be surprised if the last shows any examples.) > > For that sequence, the first takes longer but the others use cached > information and so are normally faster. > > *.pkgnew files are from upgrades and have new material to consider > relative to the original file (say merging into or regenerating or > replacing). Once taken care of, generally a *.pkgnew file can be deleted. > > *.pkgsave file are from installs and and have the old material that was > replaced by the install. Again you may need to consider merging or > regenerating or replacing content. Once taken care of, generally a > *.pkgsave file can be deleted. > >> You saved me a fresh installation, Super! >> >> I appreciate your distinguished help >> Manfred >> >> On 5/28/26 02:03, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On 5/27/26 12:28, Manfred Koch wrote: >>>> On 5/26/26 22:58, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> >>>>> pkg info FreeBSD-kernel\* >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> here are the outputs from the commands: >>>> >>>> pkg info FreeBSD-kernel\* >>>> FreeBSD-kernel-man-15.0 >>> The above (and below) indicates that you got a partial pkgbase install >>> (some pkgbase pkackages) but without any kernels (or related modules >>> that those pkgbase packages also provide). The created a mixed system >>> with older, non-packaged kernels. >>> >>> I expect that you will be able to simply install the kernel(s) (with the >>> modules that go with them) that you want from 15.0-RELEASE-p9, given >>> what already has worked to get what you have . It may rename any old >>> kernels and modules in /boot/kernel*/ that match by name to have a >>> .pkgsave at the end of the name. Those you should be able to delete once >>> things are known to be working alright. I doubt that it would instead >>> create the new files as instead having a .pkgnew added to the end of >>> the intended name. >>> >>> Another thing to possibly report would be the output from: >>> >>> # pkg info FreeBSD-set-\* >>> >>> If that ends up without and FreeBSD-set-* being listed, then my below >>> guess would be wrong. >>> >>> My guess is that you have an installation based on use of such sets. >>> If so, continuing do use them to get the kernel(s) (and modules) as well >>> would be: >>> >>> # pkg install FreeBSD-set-kernels-15.0 >>> >>> (Such pkg sets just reference other pkgbase packages, so it should lead >>> to the kernel pkg's being installed.) >>> >>> I do not know if you would want the debug information too: >>> >>> # pkg install FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-15.0 >>> >>> Once you have new kernels, if such works, you get to reboot and see what >>> happens. So you may want to have emergency copies of things you know the >>> status of before you start this process. >>> >>> I will note that I do not have a 15.0-RELEASE context myself. The >>> closest is stable/15 based instead of releng/15.0 based and is >>> definitely newer in various respects. And my installation has all the >>> pgkbase packages for stable/15 as of when it was last updated, even ones >>> not used by bsdinstall. >>> >>>> pkg info -d FreeBSD-clibs\* >>>> FreeBSD-clibs-15.0: >>>> FreeBSD-clibs-dev-15.0p9: >>>>          FreeBSD-clibs-15.0 >>>>          FreeBSD-clibs-15.0 (libc.so.7) >>>>          FreeBSD-clibs-15.0 (libgcc_s.so.1) >>>>          gcc13-13.3.0_3 (libgcc_s.so.1) >>>>          gcc14-14.2.0_4 (libgcc_s.so.1) >>> Note: Ignore the gcc* examples. it is a known issue with file name >>> matching for libgcc_s.so.1 being insufficient information to actually >>> make them a match for the system's libgcc_s.so.1 : false positive. >>> >>>>          FreeBSD-clibs-15.0 (libsys.so.7) >>>>          FreeBSD-clibs-15.0 (libthr.so.3) >>>> FreeBSD-clibs-lib32-15.0: >>>>          FreeBSD-clibs-15.0 >>>> >>>> pkg check -s -a >>>> >>>> Checking all packages: 100% >>> The above only checked that what was installed via pkg is still valid. >>> It would not report things that pkg did not itself install from >>> packages. Still, the 100% without problem reports is good news. >>> >>>> Additionally I have altered FreeBSD-base.conf consistent to "latest" >>>> but that doesn't change nothing in uname -a. >>> latest vs. quarterly is a port-package issue, not a sys†em or >>> base-package issue. uname provides system information,  not ports >>> information. >>> >>>> Could be a mixed System >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for your effort >>>> Manfred >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >