From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 28 21:45:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC46146E for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D54666 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hm14so3674541wib.4 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MPI/Db+NdYCYHKYnEcjU9c2G+Axfcrku77ExpxMgS5U=; b=HsGIRbTzQwuZW3r6MsX5pu4U/QJb+2/T5A7VI3P3xX3TegF+sHpfOMQ+uUePRx7Wtq hS4/FkITni8VtQD1NmBlQeK24ojpZ8ukfxd5ISe2Soqgdh06rZdBBxNFSMeBBYP/Ze7o yMqLKAppqvpklhR/6UOWv0qLhJdWhA79zVQdiE6DKGSPYLOQKjLj4PJ3tNFEonP91uwF 53vVfsyndGUDAUOY3iXYLsmHC7jzwBVOC/zPLlDKb+DZwmKVZBWCTkQ9UrGh30Ij7I1J URrFNSKpL4j4Fga2xnFlT76qd6U1+MeLLsQJUa3aArY4WkmWKvr9Ox/0dWpqDlqHHU9X ts4g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.22.5 with SMTP id z5mr354681wje.5.1364507115752; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.108.130 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130328212955.GJ42080@manor.msen.com> References: <20130328212955.GJ42080@manor.msen.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: my5nIKzSqOu7geqJP5KugdhvkOQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Seeking an extended-support O/S similar to FreeBSD From: Adrian Chadd To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:45:17 -0000 On 28 March 2013 14:29, Michael Wayne wrote: > I'm NOT trying to start a flame war here. I'm trying to find a > viable solution to a very frustrating, real problem. > > It's clear that FreeBSD has absolutely no interest in maintaining > an extended maintainence release version of the O/S. The high > resource commitment required to keep up with the current incessant > FreeBSD release process is beyond quite a number of people. I'm at > the point of admitting that FreeBSD is simply too much work for us > to continue to use. Well, the open source project as a whole doesn't have the resources to do this. I think the general consensus is "it'd be nice if a commercial company came up and do this." > So, I'm wondering if anyone reading the list is aware of a viable > alternative. I'm seeking a BSD-based O/S that is designed to be > installed in a server environment and not ever get any feature > upgrades or require any noticable additional resources, only security > fixes for the O/S and ports. I suggest asking ixSystems and looking at PC-BSD. There have been mumblings about a commerically supported PC-BSD distribution. Which is FreeBSD plus their testing and management and install stuff, along with what I hope is some commercial support if you need it. > While this concept is clearly in total opposition to the philosophy > of the FreeBSD team, I'm hoping that some other, smaller project > might exist to fill this need. It's actually in line with our philosophy. If people are willing to pay for it, then grab a company to do it. :) Adrian