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Subject: Re: Does either Gnome or KDE support Wayland on FreeBSD? [EOM]
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On 03/07/2018 04:01, Denis Polygalov wrote:
> Hi Grzegorz,
>
> my definition of "available out of the box" is
> "user can start using software without compiling anything". :)
> Above is my personal opinion of course, sorry for not making it clear.
> Also, yes, you right, I was thinking only about standalone
> Wayland compositors.
> As Greg said currently Wayland+KDE support on FreeBSD is
> better than for Wayland+Gnome.
>

So, in theory, if KWin/GnomeShell works then flavored ports @wayland 
could be created so that they are available "out of the box" :) Or 
Wayland enabled by default.