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To: Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
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Subject: Re: What I'd *really like* for 2.0.5 
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 09:06:26 -0700
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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
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> >> get found after boot if you remove the not found messages.  Right
> >> now I can use dmesg or look in /var/log/messages and see it, but if
> 
> >Now we're getting silly.  If your system works fine then you don't care.
> >If it doesn't work, then you'll go start thinking about booting with -v.
> 
> This fails for intermittent errors.
> 
> Bruce

Look guys, we're not trying to save the world in all its possible
guises - there are a number of areas in which the current messages
won't save you at all either, yet I don't see any of the proponents of
"yell in all situations" coming up with any solutions to those
problems, and you'd have us preserve an inferior status-quo instead
and call it a victory.  However, I don't see that this is going
anywhere so I'll shut up now and say no more on the subject..

						Jordan