From nobody Tue Sep 27 03:25:32 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Mc4lJ6fGmz4d28X for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saniya.mah@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x42d.google.com (mail-pf1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Mc4lJ1HbXz3Vp0 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saniya.mah@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id a29so8543608pfk.5 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:25:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:cc:to:subject:from :date:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=IslPOmIeUFYmY+ZD9nIpDC64O6ZuTB9eh1j20LA53Xo=; b=hW+apcrOR/JrI+ud3rnIZTKz7XdFQTNx4R38orNNLtBKAvDu/THPn/wHH8HA8cwTex E6ljaX+/g36n3/gxjdcTjQttnxOlGoD20gubUksguWiSh9gCsOBrcuFU1z4P8kkyyace LhhB0BCRhd+xRCYSd9ywXax94KqrUDMLn2D546RZGCMhcymxH3j2z6pAI00OU077KiZf AAXdXnPDRgr8GIvvFfVVxn3veZd3dRZo1FEDL6uYhTNuMhFUpOja2GVYYJhPYgqN95sc v+SDKFti52wNHuEPSbulz0Ml945/vvqljBQ+GVgJPjMiWlkHZLGkzAUd4Y6k8vvon2yj +Swg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:cc:to:subject:from :date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=IslPOmIeUFYmY+ZD9nIpDC64O6ZuTB9eh1j20LA53Xo=; b=KoVio2dUmnlAtvUaf60AMLt/J9mtliN8OeleXl45OlTcBNyeznKyyHUQH57zbXQCKo JSGn6EtkJqQrz+fwOe7UCDjF1j3FY8reY6aoXk0n1O7QQRAivOECCIMHKsU69nV04926 YbSDE+ls3h6GVsqLnmx1vYl30I9Gdtl2JfRqyRGdyMu5XoIM7lMIb7aJz9s90jSip7jH KWtXuf1R8razKCL6GERg6B9V5Z9jIGPaAWiKL9mFPxdy9zNjJarU+z3HFQ746/hU6Z81 A+94LeTHpduYArOMxQrylJy9wDFzmnsTxFEAIY/Hv3Rgdd33fgKiqGkJOakbrumRHO/3 QCSA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1zVtzQXdeoY50hHO+GJGeKZjyaTVOIyG9Y0P+TMzTVBSdAoMUN jSgXDjG3eqKMtnmkZnn/A2o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM503cjsQ5N/Pi/nRAlQiQ7Nos6ehRL57UoyHGbDXaIzf8yijS5nTFMyaGY/T9WUK2x+PNvEhQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:82c2:0:b0:43c:e315:dcc3 with SMTP id w185-20020a6382c2000000b0043ce315dcc3mr3215509pgd.39.1664249145937; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.25] ([117.195.73.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 22-20020a621416000000b0053e93aa8fb9sm302146pfu.71.2022.09.26.20.25.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:55:32 +0530 From: Saniya Maheshwari Subject: Re: Heating issues with FreeBSD on laptop To: Mario Lobo Cc: modulok@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <5YSTIR.Y5KGLFASW5IU2@gmail.com> X-Mailer: geary/40.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-XHPGNWjcXFrMbQ1rv/eK" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Mc4lJ1HbXz3Vp0 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=hW+apcrO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of saniya.mah@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=saniya.mah@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --=-XHPGNWjcXFrMbQ1rv/eK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed [CCing Modulok whose reply (probably accidentally) reached me directly and not the mailing list] Thank you both for your responses! I tried what you suggested but Powerd doesn't seem to resolve the issue. I already had it enabled /etc/rc.conf: powerd_enable="YES" though not with the specific flags you mentioned powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive" Even after setting the flags though, and restarting powerd / rebooting, I can still observe that slight distinctive warming/fan noise. Is there anything else that might be causing this? I remember I once had the same issue with a Linux distro on this same laptop, and that was because this laptop has Intel integrated graphics along with a separate NVIDIA GPU and the correct drivers were not in place. Though that was when I was using a graphical environment, while on FreeBSD here I am currently just using the TTY. Therefore I initially assumed that this might not have anything to do with the warming. Thanks again for your time. Saniya On Mon, Sep 26 2022 at 04:47:29 PM -0300 -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:40 PM Saniya Maheshwari > > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just installed FreeBSD on my laptop, and everything went smoothly, >> except one thing that my laptop seems to be a little warm and noisy >> (due to the fans) even when it's idle. >> >> Following some steps on other forums, I tried the following: >> >> $ sysctl 'hw.acpi.thermal' >> >> This gives me an 'unknown oid' error. >> >> $ sysctl -a | grep temp >> >> This gives no results. >> >> After running >> >> # kldload coretemp >> >> and retrying: >> >> $ sysctl -a | grep temperature >> >> I do get the CPU temperature values: >> >> dev.cpu.15.temperature: 51.0C >> dev.cpu.13.temperature: 50.0C >> dev.cpu.11.temperature: 50.0C >> ... >> >> All this is when the laptop is absolutely idle with just the shell >> running in the TTY. I can confirm that >> >> # top >> >> shows the same (CPU 100% idle). >> >> I'm not sure what is going wrong and would be grateful for any help. >> >> Thanks! >> Saniya > > Hi Saniya. > > Have you tried inserting > > powerd_enable="YES" > powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive" > > in /etc/rc.conf? and issue: > > service powerd start > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] --=-XHPGNWjcXFrMbQ1rv/eK Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[CCing Modulok whose reply (probab= ly accidentally) reached me directly and not the mailing list]
Thank you both for your responses! I tried what you suggested = but Powerd doesn't seem to resolve the issue. I already had it enabled

/etc/rc.conf:
powerd_enable=3D"YES"

though not with the specific flags you mentioned

powerd_flags=3D"-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"
<= div>
Even after setting the flags though, and restarting powe= rd / rebooting, I can still observe that slight distinctive warming/fan noi= se.

Is there anything else that might be causing t= his? I remember I once had the same issue with a Linux distro on this same = laptop, and that was because this laptop has Intel integrated graphics alon= g with a separate NVIDIA GPU and the correct drivers were not in place. Tho= ugh that was when I was using a graphical environment, while on FreeBSD her= e I am currently just using the TTY. Therefore I initially assumed that thi= s might not have anything to do with the warming.

= Thanks again for your time.

Saniya

On Mon, Sep 26 2022 at 04:47:29 PM -03= 00 -0300, Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:40 = PM Saniya Maheshwari <saniya.mah= @gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I just installed FreeBSD o= n my laptop, and everything went smoothly, except one thing that my laptop = seems to be a little warm and noisy (due to the fans) even when it's idle.<= /div>

Following some steps on other forums, I tried the = following:

$ sysctl 'hw.acpi.thermal'
This gives me an 'unknown oid' error.

$ sysctl -a | grep temp

This gives no results.

After running

# kldload cor= etemp

and retrying:

$ sys= ctl -a | grep temperature

I do get the CPU tempera= ture values:

dev.cpu.15.temperature: 51.0C
dev.cpu.13.temperature: 50.0C
dev.cpu.11.temperature: 50.0C
...

All this is when the laptop is absolut= ely idle with just the shell running in the TTY. I can confirm that

# top

shows the same (CPU 100% i= dle).

I'm not sure what is going wrong and would b= e grateful for any help.

Thanks!
Saniya<= /div>

Hi Saniya.

=
Have you tried inserting

powerd_enable= =3D"YES"
powerd_flags=3D"-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"
=
in /etc/rc.conf? and issue:

service= powerd start

--
Mario Lobo
http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since v= ersion 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!]
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