From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 29 03:19:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25622 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (root@gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25615 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de) Received: from duffner.konstanz.netsurf.de (surf90.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.90]) by gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA18149; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:18:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 05:13:51 +0200 (MESZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: What tipped the balance To: Sean Harding cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue 28 Jul, Sean Harding wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, David Wolfskill wrote: > > > As for FreeBSD... well, here at work is the only time I've used it. I > > still find PC hardware significantly more challenging than I think any > > hardware has any right to be. > > I can certainly agree with that! At work, I admin Solaris and IRIX > machines...There are, of course, difficulties, but the hardware is really > worth the extra money, IMHO. That depends, IMHO. It's not only the hardware, also the software: price of StarOffice4 for Windows: something around 400 DM price of StarOffice4 for Linux: nought ! zero price of StarOffice4 for Solaris almost 1000 DM As a Solaris-user, I'd really feel, hm, well, you know.... But then, the SGI-machines (and the add-ons) are soo expensive, 1000 DM + or - won't hurt..... ;-) > My only (personal) FreeBSD machine is one > that I built from used parts for under $300...Actually, that's my only If you spend that little on PC-hardware, you can't expect anything. Really. > A little extra $$$ for non-PC hardware is always worth it if you can > afford it. I almost exclusively use SCSI (Drives, CDROM) and fast RAM) this solves many problems and creates new ones (cable-lenght of U-SCSI, termination, external devices...) But the drives have longer MTBFs(x2) and longer warranty(3-5 years+). A better throughput also helps. I make world in just under 4 hours. Sun hardware is IMHO almost unaffordable for non-corporate users. SGI is even worse and there's little software for HP other then RDBMS and some CAD-packages.... The 'little extra' comes out as several 1000 (or 10000) $$$. > Now, we just need to get FreeBSD running on some better hardware, and > we'll be set :-) There's a FreeBSD for Alpha Project (don't know the URL off-hand). If I hadn't bought a PC some time ago, I'd buy an Alpha soon. The performance must be absolutely crazy ! cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message