From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 10:57:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E3716A4E0 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A8143D5D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:57:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.166] helo=localhost) by tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlBut-000549-Hu for chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:56:59 +0000 Received: from rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.165]) by localhost (scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.166]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 19447-01 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:56:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlBut-000540-4L for chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:56:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 27089 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2004 18:56:56 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (sweep: 2.14/3.71. spamassassin: 2.53. Clear:. Processed in 5.604909 secs); 26 Jan 2004 18:56:56 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk via gateway X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 5.604909 secs) Received: from dhcp1131.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk) (163.1.161.131) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 26 Jan 2004 18:56:49 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20040126185301.046c5ae0@imap.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@imap.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:56:22 +0000 To: Lawrence Sica From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <7D8253A2-5030-11D8-9620-000393A335A2@mac.com> References: <4013EA9D.6040808@cream.org> <20040125134151.M52260@mail.tacorp.net> <20040125185753.GA12995@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <40141B3D.9070901@cream.org> <20040125194721.GA28036@xor.obsecurity.org> <40143CC3.6010709@cream.org> <401514D3.7020808@iconoplex.co.uk> <6.0.1.1.1.20040126133123.0465b398@imap.sfu.ca> <40152488.8070309@iconoplex.co.uk> <6.0.1.1.1.20040126183938.046fcec0@imap.sfu.ca> <7D8253A2-5030-11D8-9620-000393A335A2@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Less messages to FreeBSD.org lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:57:15 -0000 At 18:50 26/01/2004, Lawrence Sica wrote: >On Jan 26, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Colin Percival wrote: > > Yes and no. Windows Update can behave badly. But I'm not talking >>about Windows Update; I'm talking about FreeBSD Update, which is very >>well behaved (and *much* faster, for that matter). > >Ever see the OS X Software Update? It works really well. Is that the one which uses compressed cpio archives containing the new versions of any updated files? I guess it's ok if you *want* to waste bandwidth and your customers' time, but personally I like the factor-of-50 reduction in bandwidth which FreeBSD Update accomplishes by using binary diffs. Colin Percival