From nobody Wed Nov 9 23:55:42 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N720r03b7z4dfyJ for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 23:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x631.google.com (mail-ej1-x631.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::631]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N720q1ndBz3MVt for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 23:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ej1-x631.google.com with SMTP id 13so1030909ejn.3 for ; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 15:55:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=tivkZkH9iB7XjyHv85+D8LtWkQpXpVe4VCYFR0LDeVw=; b=6h/Pi4sOSOdx7LH+Se5h7lDg8FT/HFhPxwA6jEONrNBWVXrjnrd/KmnpSWu2NsFkpj BUZfJU4lJxKc0AofC/IU/K8IuPRzJ0563jmL5bt5AFEoyhEAhW1paBadnk4c3O0rFkBH kYzB98NL3ZuCcfYa4P7VVqnS8SWGVLSlAHD0MMfUc43tbCya/mEovmtRs9FLl/s3zP4z 8H/AYdfj034UU2ED1BGny99cnJi1ml0DolaMHjJY0bGY3GjAw/908VvMo/PEw7jkNImw nke0/ubqZM4glZP6oeDjbKqp2hIvM1WQNhA6OGqyA+8FhriNbYwAYdUoNlG8H1xfIlr9 DQUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=tivkZkH9iB7XjyHv85+D8LtWkQpXpVe4VCYFR0LDeVw=; b=P7e4HRs0rLhgdnJP4u5pI9pkACOaySIlOeRyRCfnkk2bl55FMlSVg6BhHezm3obNmK VpF/F/VF0uNQd95EhbO2aubHQhYsBYymAlY2W1rNZKIRCQZoBMnTHLnmxGerWu6PwYua iOwzEsUxTq+YWVRZO0ScOYVq7r2T48b+jP2zf1Mqw8aOKyS+2rueQ1wCCoJULN+/9zYW iE3oaC2ogS2ToHnWaPKM+rswmRkASo9uakbNeZ5YiiThe+j38QP210cTp/5IBT2i6AA0 QlznTwphQS7HtVUSf4IEN04vfqhVPsUygB9+twGO5hNhJsyYN3qmrqvpMfdGWHma98QB QXXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1Sm0KNj2KrofC5TJgxkhmvXrikoOGUguOTQjBAV3QVwAHWM0Fu VYeVHcPHTO2zTr4sQZsIb/sRGxbx7gqI/3PAGf31Kg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7JPth7Bo/RWBOZLhRJxJo80uzvG5tEZDLnPX5SbAClWl4RaCYZoSWGsDW9N836omKAiq7oCzfSLDJvBB2k2po= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:2710:b0:7ad:86f9:9bad with SMTP id w16-20020a170907271000b007ad86f99badmr59568842ejk.32.1668038153704; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 15:55:53 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 16:55:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dropping firewire support from boot loader To: Mark Millard Cc: freebsd-arch , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009fb48405ed126587" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N720q1ndBz3MVt X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000009fb48405ed126587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:42 PM Mark Millard wrote: > Warner Losh wrote on > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 20:01:41 UTC : > > > I'd like to drop firewire support from the boot loader. It's not been > used > > in quite some time, as far as I can tell. Nor have I (or anybody else) > > tested it in forever. > > > > Is anybody still using it? Does anybody know if it works? Any objections > to > > removing it from FreeBSD 14? > > I would suggest that old PowerMac's might be the most > likely usage context. > Right now, though, this is an i386 only feature... Warner --0000000000009fb48405ed126587 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:42 PM Mark M= illard <marklmi@yahoo.com> w= rote:
Warner Los= h <imp_at_bsdimp.com> wrote on
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 20:01:41 UTC :

> I'd like to drop firewire support from the boot loader. It's n= ot been used
> in quite some time, as far as I can tell. Nor have I (or anybody else)=
> tested it in forever.
>
> Is anybody still using it? Does anybody know if it works? Any objectio= ns to
> removing it from FreeBSD 14?

I would suggest that old PowerMac's might be the most
likely usage context.

Right now, though= , this is an i386 only feature...

Warner
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