From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 00:22:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC6916A418; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF1413C43E; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup156.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.156]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBA0LY8M005552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:21:47 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBA0LX77045813; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:21:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBA0LVlg045053; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:21:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:21:31 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20071210002131.GA74729@kobe.laptop> References: <20071209234943.GB2112@kobe.laptop> <9bbcef730712091554p63d4ec54sdaf0abcb6e5b1c65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730712091554p63d4ec54sdaf0abcb6e5b1c65@mail.gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 trivial problems / notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:22:01 -0000 On 2007-12-10 00:54, Ivan Voras wrote: >On 10/12/2007, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Some of these are in the PEBKAC range of problems, though, i.e.: >> >> => tmpfs and fstab/fsck errors >> >> Since tmpfs /tmp is a memory file system, which is created from >> scratch every time, it makes no sense to fsck it on boot. > > And this gives it the right to block system from booting? I'd at least > like a symlink from "true" to "fsck_tmpfs". Heh, no, there's no reason to block the boot process because of a missing binary (although some may argue that botching fstab is not something that should be taken lightly). A *real* fix is probably something we should discuss with Julio M. Merino Vidal and the people who ported tmpfs to FreeBSD. For example, does it make sense to fsck a tmpfs, ever? When it's not mounted, is it accessible in any way? What are the `use cases' of the tmpfs filesystem, other than memory-backed /tmp mounts? > > => SCTP depends on IPv6 > > > > This is clearly documented in NOTES. I don't think it should count > > as a surprising fact. > > I know it's in the NOTES - I've added it when it bit me since I didn't > read the notes. Maybe I'll remove it. If it bit you, an experienced FreeBSD developer, it can bite others too. Let's work with re@ to get it in the release notes, if it's not already there (instead of deleting it from the list) :-) My last CVSup is from Wed Dec 05 19:32:59 2007 +0000 (right before I started preparing for Friday's FreeBSD talk at a nearby university), so I'll CVSup again tomorrow morning, and check how we can fit this into the release notes in a nice, non-intrusive but still useful manner.