From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 16:33:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFA916A41A; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76AF13C458; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 5046D9B409B; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:15:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:15:41 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: Adrian Chadd Message-ID: <20080110161541.GA2317@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , Adrian Chadd , Dominic Fandrey , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <478556AD.6090400@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Dominic Fandrey , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:33:04 -0000 On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:56:15PM +0900, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 10/01/2008, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > This is the thing though. Its working for the developers, its not > working for the users, so how do you think it'll get fixed? > > > The second big problem is the handling of regressions. PRs remain > > unanswered or the reporters are told that the regressions they > > report do not exist. Some of our members have even suffered the > > experience that they developed a patch, but it simply was ignored > > or turned down for the reason that it was a "Linux solution". > > Especially frustrating for those among us who have never looked at > > Linux code. > > Whats the PR number? I'm coming in in the middle of this thread, but here's one from July 2006: kern/100839 No one from the FreeBSD community ever responded on it. I thought that I'd even suggested removing the driver entirely, due to this showstopping bug, and removing its listing as compatible, but now I can't find an archived reference, so maybe it was in my head. I love FreeBSD, and I used it on a daily basis, but there's an example, if you're genuinely interested. Erik