From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 17 08:42:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57961065670 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8508FC18 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (gate.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.10]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F20A7E821; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:42:47 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:42:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <991123400904150450p56d24ba5vcd15de8c34096ab0@mail.gmail.com> <20090415210350.2ff85e15.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090415210350.2ff85e15.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904171042.45748.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Odhiambo Washington , Manolis Kiagias Subject: Re: Automounting of USB drives - Why is it a problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:42:49 -0000 On Wednesday 15 April 2009 21:03:50 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:33:46 -0400, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > Problem is not to select an operating system to use but it is easiness of > > usability of FreeBSD especially for the new beginners . > > The thing with "easieness of usability" is... well... it depends > on what you are used to. Those who are (I hope it doesn't sound > impolite)... "spoiled" by strange "Windows" concepts about how > to do things (e. g. copying and moving files through the edit > buffer... ugh...) may find things complicated where others say, > "wow, so easy!" (e. g. "cp " - compare this to > the easieness of JCL!). > > What may be the best and most comfortable solution to me may > sound like a nightmare to others. > > The topic, regarding USB automount, is such a case. The question > that could arise is: In how much is the operating system responsible > for this automounting? Should it be done by the OS, and if, by > default, and if by default, with which parameters? Or should it > be left to an additional service? There's a lot of consolidation going on in the unix desktop world, that pretty much forces applications that are buggy, don't know anything about non-linux and require real effort from various FreeBSD developers to get in a somewhat working state, but it still eliminates options. hal being my primary pet-peeve followed by xorg. The reason why I embraced FreeBSD (after BSDi's premature death): ability to do it my way, which is slowly being taken away from me. For example, try getting hal to automount a cd based on a given label, with currently running user on path below home directory, rather then /media. Maybe you can, but I doubt it. In fact, using glabel will present you with multiple notification dialogs out of the box. I can get done exactly what I want, by using native freebsd devd and ditching hal and I have a second option of using amd, except then I have a buggy working Xorg server if it's working at all. Anyway, here's a nice rant about hal, that I think represents how a lot of long time users of FreeBSD on the desktop feel, that may or may not give you some different perspectives: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-April/005758.html -- Mel