From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Mar 13 5:39:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [209.239.36.156] (host2.hostmatters.com [209.239.36.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F1037B724 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:39:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@cahostnet.com) Received: from nhqadmin17 (224host13.redcross.org [162.6.224.13]) by [209.239.36.156] (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f2DDd7f26463; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:39:07 -0500 Message-ID: <008401c0abc3$879168c0$6102a00a@nhqadmin17> From: "Ben" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , References: <000701c0ab87$44517e60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux (More Questions!) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:43:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I agree with you on what you're saying but let me clarify some things here as well. I've been in the computer industry for quite some time now myself. Probably not as long as you but I'm no newbie in the computer industry. When I say the term industry standard I really mean marketing trend. In other words where will I find the most bang for the money. If I use Solaris for example, I can almost guarantee that I will find something in the Unix world that I can fit in. Linux has also emerged to be a big player now in the market. This is all marketing trends. Tomorrow it could be something else and that's fine. That's what the industry is today. What you learn today could be gone tomorrow. This is the reason I posed my question. Basically what flavor of Unix can I use that will be best for learning the operating system so I can adjust to any type of other flavored Unix platform. Most of everyone here stated that they thought BSD was the way to go because how it was structured and how close that structure was to Unix itself. Me personally, I work in an NT shop with some Unix. My group will be getting some Unix in the near future. What we don't know. See how this can benefit me and put me in a better position to impress my boss and better help my team? As stated by you, no one can know everything and that's correct. Even the smartest engineers don't know everything. They may be perfect in their current position but may not fit someone else. I try to remain neutral whenever possible. There's always room for the typical Unix machine and the NT machine. I don't get in this war as I have to keep an open mind when it comes to designing system for customers. Not everyone needs Unix and not everyone can benefit from NT either. There are several factors to consider. I've pretty much made up my mind to go with FreeBSD since I have couple of servers already running for testing. This will give me more knowledge about it. Thanks to everyone that replied. It helped in my decision making and I appreciate it. Ben - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Ben" ; Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:31 AM Subject: RE: FreeBSD and Linux (More Questions!) > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ben > > > What are the industry > >standards? > > Ben, this may sound like a nasty vicious statement but it's the > truth - your making the _classic_ and I mean _classic_ mistake that > all of those new to the the computer industry make. > > Simply put - there ARE NO standards. At least, not in the way that > you WANT them to be. > > The computer industry is NOT like it was 20 years ago, it is 1000 > times vaster. I can remember when I was 15, and it was actually > possible at that time to "know everything worth knowing" at least > in the PC desktop arena (although we didn't call them PC's then) > That is why the userbase at that time was so adamantly for > standardization on a single platform and software OS - because we > all felt that the market was still graspable, and we wanted the > standardization to keep it graspable. > > Today, however, your fooling yourself if you believe for a second > that the computer industry is a homogenious collection of hardware > and software. If you learn nothing else, know now that even if you > spent every waking second of your life simply learning new things > in the computer industry, you could never hope in your lifetime to > possess more than a small fraction of all the computer knowledge > worth knowing. In fact, by the day that you die the sum total > amount of things to know about in the computer industry will have > been multiplied by 100. You will go to your grave knowing a > smaller percentage of things in the computer industry than you know > today, even if you die the worlds greatest software developer > > It frankly makes absolutely no difference WHAT platform that you > choose - you could pick FreeBSD and spend your life on it, or Linux > and spend your life on it, or Solaris and spend your life on it, > and AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING you will be very employable > for the rest of your life. > > "Industry standard" today is nothing more than a meaningless > marketing term used by salespeople to try to convince the > weak-minded to abandon a current solution and switch to a new one. > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOq4jvght7rD8NlhDEQJDzwCdGws0bn33RJA5j0N7WQbVUaFX+rcAoIFz bewAfVyzcBSYxddcZsco8MoU =5+Ko -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message