From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 09:25:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B210716A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B4243D1F for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from [192.168.100.1] (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [192.168.100.1]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891D93574C; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:25:08 +0100 (CET) From: Miguel Mendez To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040317110938.GA86023@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040315134745.1eb201f4.manlix@demonized.net> <20040315125121.GC91150@abc.123.org> <20040315135725.3cc70f97.manlix@demonized.net> <20040317110938.GA86023@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-oHKwlka0jbLWhxzOdS0f" Message-Id: <1079544327.63000.5.camel@scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:25:28 +0100 cc: Johan Pettersson Subject: Re: Pkg-based base system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:25:16 -0000 --=-oHKwlka0jbLWhxzOdS0f Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 12:09, David O'Brien wrote: > 3. Sounds like you want Linux with its RPM's, not BSD. We consciously > don't wrap the base system in pkg_add tarballs. We generally LIKE the > entire system being a single integrated blob. Yes and no. Perl was removed from base, wasn't it? Anyone needing perl can install install it from ports (read: it's one of the first ports most people install). Why can't the same be applied to bind and sendmail? Make them optional, at least. Most of the people I know never bother with sendmail and go straight for postfix as soon as the system is up. Having certain parts as optional and/or in packaged form can be beneficial IMHO, without going to the extreme of having everything packaged (e.g. libc, tcsh, etc). I think Colin's stuff deserves some consideration before throwing the idea out. But, OTOH, if FreeBSD=20 committers don't like the idea, one can always fork(2). Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 --=-oHKwlka0jbLWhxzOdS0f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAWIoHnLctrNyFFPERAkV6AJ40zoAkcWDuNpT8WAuZSjF5l0VzLQCfXO2F hGC8ntAw5STbQ3Fe8T/Eg5Q= =jx/k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-oHKwlka0jbLWhxzOdS0f--