From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 04:03:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40CD37B401 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857AC43FAF for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:03:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h78B39j15920; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:03:09 -0300 Message-ID: <3F33836D.6070809@tcoip.com.br> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:03:09 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030702 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert References: <1059854534.46751.0.camel@acheron.livid.de> <3F311492.9080309@tcoip.com.br> <3F31E42E.87379C0A@mindspring.com> <3F323FD7.6090903@tcoip.com.br> <3F335184.A84ECFDB@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3F335184.A84ECFDB@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Scott M. Likens" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACLS on UFS2 from FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE install. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:03:29 -0000 Terry Lambert wrote: > "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > >>You'll also notice I'm not questioning the _existence_ of ACL. My point >>is that FreeBSD is Unix (no matter what the lawyers say), and people >>don't usually think of ACL when they think of Unix. Ergo, enabling ACL >>by defautl violates POLA. > > > Not if you never *set* an ACL on anything. It's only when there > are ACL's set on things that POLA may be violated. Which is fine if there's no one else on the machine... :-) > One presumes that an ACL has to be set on purpose... By _someone_, at at any rate. :-) >>And, in FreeBSD, POLA is king. >> >>(Or so we used to believe, no matter what we actually did. :) > > I'd be astonished if that weren't true. 8-) 8-). > > -- Terry -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca VIVO Centro Oeste Norte Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net Hoffer's Discovery: The grand act of a dying institution is to issue a newly revised, enlarged edition of the policies and procedures manual.