From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 17:02:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D2537B401 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f77.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B3A43F93 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gs_stoller@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:02:53 -0700 Received: from 205.184.165.244 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:02:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.184.165.244] X-Originating-Email: [gs_stoller@hotmail.com] From: "Gerald S. Stoller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:02:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2003 00:02:53.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A79C930:01C34B2D] Subject: xterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:02:54 -0000 FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 When working in a Unix system, I like to work with several windows (if possible) and organize my work among them. I use xterm (as on the line 'xterm &') to open new windows. Recently, I wanted to check on my processes and issued the command 'ps -l' and was surprised to not find any xterm processes among them. So I issued the command 'ps -la' and there I found the xterm processes but they were owned by root , not by me who had issued the command. Even though I wasn’t listed *by the ‘ps –la’ command as the owner, I could still kill the xterm processes. I don’t know where the incongruity is, in the kernel’s tables or in the reporting by ps . In multi-user (commercial) systems, I believe that the user who invokes the xterm processes is (listed as) its owner. I prefer that all processes running in FreeBSD be owned by the user who invoked them, the exceptions being some system ( root ) processes used in the login process. (The xterm processes are included here as non-system processes, so they should be owned by the user who invoked them.) I would like to see FreeBSD changed to reflect this, but the bug reporting site is down now. If anyone knows of any reasons why the current operation is correct and should be left as is, please inform me. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail