From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 1 20:37:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9283A858 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 20:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40FB011D6 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 20:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:6d3f:9d69:b233:ed3c] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 682461; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 20:37:07 +0000 Message-ID: <556CC272.8040402@radel.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:37:06 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: best options for a *WORKING* MTA References: <20150601145425.20b56f3a@seibercom.net> <556CAD9A.6040005@radel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000209000002020905040303" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 20:37:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000209000002020905040303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6/1/15 3:11 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Yes I did I said several time.... Once by my count, in reference to sendmail only. But who's counting. > I specifically said I can connect to port 25 from localhost but not=20 > remotely... I fixed it with exim so it is not an issue any more but=20 > the point is the default sendmail config is simply broken and so badly = > documented that making it work as described in the handbook or on=20 > various sites for 10.1 is very confusing > Sendmail confusing -- say it's not so. Ah, for the good old days when=20 you edited sendmail.cf directly, instead of all this fruh-fruh macro=20 stuff, after carefully studying the 1,282 pages that are the 4th edition = of O'Reilly's sendmail. Did you change the default sendmail_enable=3D"NO" # Run the sendmail inbound daemon (YES/NO). to "YES" in your /etc/rc.conf? You're describing the default behavior=20 if you don't do that. If you didn't, might I suggest as a general rule=20 that you read /etc/defaults/rc.conf for anything that ships with base=20 and doesn't work as you want; it's quite well commented. And no, you=20 don't need SASL or anything else from ports. And yes, that's a sensible = default; every server accepting mail from anywhere out-of-the-box by=20 default would cause more messes than it would solve. As for postfix, as the default port includes a config file that includes = listening on all interfaces, so if you were seeing the same thing there=20 I wouldn't know what the issue is. But if you're happy with exim, all should be well. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms000209000002020905040303 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKrzCC BK8wggOXoAMCAQICEQDgI8sVEoNTia1hbnpUZ2shMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMG8xCzAJBgNV BAYTAlNFMRQwEgYDVQQKEwtBZGRUcnVzdCBBQjEmMCQGA1UECxMdQWRkVHJ1c3QgRXh0ZXJu YWwgVFRQIE5ldHdvcmsxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUFkZFRydXN0IEV4dGVybmFsIENBIFJvb3QwHhcN MTQxMjIyMDAwMDAwWhcNMjAwNTMwMTA0ODM4WjCBmzELMAkGA1UEBhMCR0IxGzAZBgNVBAgT EkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBxMHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgGA1UEChMRQ09NT0RP IENBIExpbWl0ZWQxQTA/BgNVBAMTOENPTU9ETyBTSEEtMjU2IENsaWVudCBBdXRoZW50aWNh dGlvbiBhbmQgU2VjdXJlIEVtYWlsIENBMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKC AQEAibEN2npTGU5wUh28VqYGJre4SeCW51Gr8fBaE0kVo7SMG2C8elFCp3mMpCLfF2FOkdV2 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