From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Oct 5 01:53:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA03914 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 01:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA03909 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 01:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdisp@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA01391 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 01:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bsdisp@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA07506; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 11:49:34 +0200 (EET) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199610050949.LAA07506@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: How to solve the news server problem To: dror@dnai.com Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 11:49:33 +0200 (EET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Dror Matalon at "Oct 5, 96 00:20:18 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi folks, > 3000 users I've never seen more than 30 concurrent readers > on our news server. Our server runs on : > 128 Meg memory > 4 Quantum XP34300W (Fast wide 4Gig) Yes, I know 8 2 Gigs would be better. > Pentium 133 > > Response time is fine, but not spectacular. I suspect that the next > step for speedup would be for us to have separate reader and feed > machines. Right now this machine connect to 4 other ISPs to send > and receive news. even machine like that cant handle news too well nowadays? outch. since i was planning running news on machine with about 10-12 2gig ultra wide drives, with 256megs of ram and p166 or pro200... but it seems to me that might be futile... > I believe that my news server is spending most of its time receiving, > writing to disk, organizing, and then removing files that NONE OF > MY USERS WILL EVER LOOK AT. To put it another way, the reason that indeed. how about running the news on sgi challenge s? i've heard there's news software available for sgi machiens that actually doesnt neccessarry keep the unread groups on disk, when someone accesses those groups, the software grabs those groups from the servers feeding the machine... am i right? anyone more knowledge about this? is there anyone familiar with the challenge s machines? the price doesnt sound too bad, since it's only a little more than pro200, and has faster bus and stuff... i could think the first place where the pc hardware loses most _is_ the "slow" bus speed, coz you can drag only 132mbytes of stuff cross the ethernets (possibly multiple interfaces) and scsi's (again possibly multiple interfaces) mickey -- mika ruohotie mika@aeon.net net/sys admin